# FW: Camping Trade Hubs, exploit or legitimate pvp tactic? **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [July 31, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398 "2024-07-31T03:21:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/101 "2024-07-31T22:41:02Z")
That’s generally what happens when you walk into any place, acknowledge that you know things have been done a certain way for decades, but you know better, even though you have no experience. And then people expect everyone to agree, and anyone who doesn’t always has a personal vendetta for whatever reason. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/102 "2024-07-31T22:43:09Z")
If you look at the sky, and continually insist it’s brown when it is blue, that’s not a point of view, that’s ignorance. If you point at a tree, and keep insisting that it’s a dog, that’s not a point of view, that is ignorance. If you point at an accepted, valid mechanic that has almost never changed, and say you know better, that’s not a point of view, that is ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/103 "2024-07-31T22:45:31Z")
> [@MarquisAndras](#): > > . 🙂 Translation follows: ![dTcAHZcg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/1/2/512fd30256ded54650d56f12ad732b296bea2b7b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/104 "2024-07-31T22:46:48Z")
Well, if everything is so valid, why hasn’t CCP commented on it for decades, even though it is repeatedly asked about and criticized? It has nothing to do with ignorance, just because you can’t be silenced in your justified point of view. That’s all, I’ll let you have your opinion. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/105 "2024-07-31T22:47:01Z")
and your point is? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/106 "2024-07-31T22:47:58Z")
> [@MarquisAndras](#): > > point You know fully well, and you don’t like it because it is true. ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/107 "2024-07-31T22:49:27Z")
No, I have no idea what you’re talking about, but this is starting to feel like a huge campaign against me personally. Why don’t you get a few more colleagues involved if you want? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/108 "2024-07-31T22:50:59Z")
> [@MarquisAndras](#): > > … > **[demagogy](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/demagogy)** > > 1. the action or fact of winning support by exciting the emotions of ordinary… > the action or fact of winning support by exciting the emotions of ordinary people rather than by having good or morally right ideas > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > In other words appealing to feelings, especially parading as a victim (being personally attacked) rather than addressing the subject itself (especially if not right about the subject). ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/109 "2024-07-31T22:54:15Z")
I’m really intellectually impressed by your use of a dictionary, but trying to explain to me on a theoretical level what I’m doing here just doesn’t get us any further in the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/110 "2024-07-31T22:56:51Z")
Well, when your derangement makes you incapable of admitting flaw or letting someone else have the last word, you’re inevitably going to see it as personal. It’s not, you’re just incapable of seeing any facts that don’t already align with your world view. When Yuri Bezmenov told of us Ideological Subversion back in the 80s, he warned us we’d eventually end up dealing with your level of stupidity. Facts could walk up holding a sign stating their intention, tell you what they were going to do, kick you in the imaginary balls, and you’d never see it coming. Arguing with you is pointless, because you’re incapable rational discourse. Anything you’re told must either align with your already established viewpoint, or it’s a personal attack. ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/111 "2024-07-31T22:58:23Z")
Well, I could say exactly the same thing about you now, but I’ll save it out of politeness or until someone cries? ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/112 "2024-07-31T22:59:57Z")
So, what facts am I ignoring here? Do tell how this applies to anyone but you. You’re supposed to outgrow the retort of, “I know you are, but what am I.” in elementary school, and learn more advanced debate techniques. It’s another one of those “Inconvenient Truths” you so willfully ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/113 "2024-07-31T23:01:17Z")
> [@MarquisAndras](#): > > explain to me on a theoretical level what I’m doing here Glad you agree and even admit you are just spreading demagogue nonsense thus not worthy of an actual response. ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/114 "2024-07-31T23:01:47Z")
Hey, as I said, I’m a simple person and not an alliance leader or anything like that, so I don’t need any advanced rhetorical knowledge. Elementary school is enough for a simple EvE player. ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/115 "2024-07-31T23:02:19Z")
If you then feel better? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/116 "2024-07-31T23:03:31Z")
Maybe try forming a coherent sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/117 "2024-07-31T23:03:56Z")
> [@MarquisAndras](#): > > Elementary school is enough for a simple EvE player. No, it most certainly is not. Not saying you need an advanced degree, but you need problem solving and analytical skills that Elementary just won’t prepare you for. Does explain a lot though, you only having an Elementary education before the Ignorance Indoctrination began. That’s where your reasoning skills got stunted, and why you argue like you’re 9. ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/118 "2024-07-31T23:05:45Z")
Yes, that’s true. EvE Online is probably one of the most complex MMOs on the market, you should have studied to really understand it. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/119 "2024-07-31T23:08:13Z")
At this point he clearly went into trying to troll you. All that last post in response to you is an attempt to trigger a response. Indirectly admitting he has no argument whatsoever nor care to stick to the subject. He didn’t even address you questioning his reasoning skills (and by so not even denying the validity of your post). ---
**Author:** ![MarquisAndras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marquisandras/32/434516_2.png) [@MarquisAndras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MarquisAndras)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-camping-trade-hubs-exploit-or-legitimate-pvp-tactic/457398/120 "2024-07-31T23:09:20Z")
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