# FW will it ever be redone **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824 "2018-02-17T12:35:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hemdar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hemdar/32/55033_2.png) [@Hemdar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hemdar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/1 "2018-02-17T12:35:28Z")
just wondering if ccp will ever update the FW system? ie change up the way caputeing works or something currently it is very boring and very time consuming, ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/2 "2018-02-17T12:39:03Z")
Do you do it for the rewards, or the fights? ---
**Author:** ![Hemdar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hemdar/32/55033_2.png) [@Hemdar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hemdar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/3 "2018-02-17T12:46:03Z")
i do it for both. ---
**Author:** ![Sawako](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sawako/32/207046_2.png) [@Sawako](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sawako)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/4 "2018-02-17T12:46:31Z")
CCP always just abandons stuff, even the new resource wars have now been officially abandoned, even though it could be improved immensely with minimum effort . Half assed and heads firmly planted in the sand, both frustrating and sad - but utterly predictable ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/5 "2018-02-17T12:46:50Z")
It was a trick question. The fights are the rewards. ---
**Author:** ![Hemdar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hemdar/32/55033_2.png) [@Hemdar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hemdar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/6 "2018-02-17T12:48:15Z")
yes and its annoying as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/7 "2018-02-17T12:51:26Z")
Management does not want to spend dev time on features which cannot be directly monetized. So no, no updates for FW, unless they can figure out a way to make more RL money from it. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/8 "2018-02-17T13:04:06Z")
> [@Chan\_aar](#): > > Management does not want to spend dev time on features which cannot be directly monetized. Got a source on that? ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/9 "2018-02-17T13:04:35Z")
Read the CSM minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/10 "2018-02-17T13:04:57Z")
Save me some time, and tell me which part I should read. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/11 "2018-02-17T13:06:05Z")
The hint’s and innuendo’s are spread through out the whole thing. Also look up CCP Hellbunny’s name and find where he came from. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/12 "2018-02-17T13:08:29Z")
> [@Chan\_aar](#): > > …hint’s and innuendo’s… You know the parable of the net, in the Bible? The fishermen would only select the best fish, and throw the rest back. The chosen fish were like the chosen people. It’s meant to represent those chosen for eternal life in Heaven. You know how I read it? All those chosen fish are getting cooked for dinner, and I’d rather be the fish getting thrown back. Anything that’s open to interpretation is not a source. With all the stuff that’s just been released that has not been directly monetised, you’re gonna need to do a lot better than ‘hints and innuendo’. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/13 "2018-02-17T13:11:05Z")
_Shrugs_ Wait and see then. I’ll bookmark this topic and try and remember to come back to it in a year, or when FW is iterated upon. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/14 "2018-02-17T13:15:10Z")
I’m not saying that FW doesn’t need work. I was just messin with the OP. He got my joke, 'sall good. But I also know CCP. I know they need to monetise something, what with the game going free and all, and in general, their monetisation has been fairly reasonable, at least when compared with that from the likes of EA, Actiblizzard, and Ewbisoft. But CCP give us a lot of stuff that isn’t directly monetised at all, so what you’re asserting is a little on the tinfoil side. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/15 "2018-02-17T13:16:35Z")
> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#): > > at least when compared with that from the likes of EA The management driving CCP’s monetization was recruited from EA … ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/16 "2018-02-17T13:17:04Z")
And the scientists behind nuclear energy and space travel were recruited from Nazi Germany. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/17 "2018-02-17T13:18:53Z")
Here’s another one that’ll work the noggin’. Why do you suppose someone would leave EA to work at CCP? ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/18 "2018-02-17T13:21:04Z")
That the dev’s that actually work on the game are not being allowed to work on the area’s they want to or that they recognise needs work because the management wants them to work on features they can monetize. Therefore to answer the OP’s question, the chances of FW being worked on are remote unless it can be monetized in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/19 "2018-02-17T13:34:22Z")
[quote=“Chan\_aar, post:18, topic:57824, full:true”] That the dev’s that actually work on the game are not being allowed to work on the area’s they want to [/quote] You mean to tell me they’re hired to do a job, and aren’t allowed to do their own things while they’re on the clock? Nowai! It’s almost as if they’re… employees! > [@Chan\_aar](#): > > or that they recognise needs work because the management wants them to work on features they can monetize. Still waiting for that source tbh. Because I’m still seeing CCP developing stuff that isn’t monetised, so… ---
**Author:** ![Garresh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garresh/32/411555_2.png) [@Garresh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garresh)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824/20 "2018-02-21T11:59:12Z")
Is FW really that bad? I mean I know it’s loaded with problems. I’ve done it quite a bit. FW is like a summer vacation home for me. I periodically get the itch and go down there. Although with sec status being purchaseable with tags I’m more likely to daytrip now. Anyways while it is exploited constantly, I find it works remarkably well for newbros. They get paid to pvp, sufficient to replace their ships and maintain income. I get to meet pilots from all walks of life. Some are green as hell, others are bittervets who gave up nullsec to relax, and some are pirates who chose a side. Not to mention actual pirates all over the place. Like it does what it set out to do, and the numbers of players engaged seems to show this. Note: I’m a couple years out of faction warfare meta(I still do solo roams) and was a Minmatar front player, so I could be quite wrong if it changed in the last few years. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/fw-will-it-ever-be-redone/57824.md?page=2)