# \[GalFed\] A Statement of Condemnation of the so-called "Gallentia Primacy"

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**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [August 28, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/galfed-a-statement-of-condemnation-of-the-so-called-gallentia-primacy/417786 "2023-08-28T23:17:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/galfed-a-statement-of-condemnation-of-the-so-called-gallentia-primacy/417786/6 "2023-08-30T06:26:20Z")

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> [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](#):
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> Yeah, and what’s the ratio of them to the State?

Irrelevant. The State doesn’t have the right to invalidate their lived experience as Caldari, living in the way traditional Caldari lived.

Nor does the State have the right to invalidate Adams’ experience as a Caldari. You can say he’s a piss-poor Caldari, but he remains Caldari.

> [@Kitaula\_Kuusa\_Jouhinen](#):
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> Tell me Arrendis, what do you think of the Ammatar? Do they have honor? Are you proud of these descendants of your Tribes?

I think they’re a tragic, cautionary tale. Many of their leadership, we’ve learned, started off trying to use appeasement and supplication as a way to protect their people and the few Starkmanir who weren’t on Starkman Prime. But you can’t maintain that level of secrecy _and_ keep the masses in the know. Do I think the Ammatar have honor? Some, in their way. It’s not the same kind of honor, or same _matters_ of honor, that the Tribes espouse (including the restored Nefantar), but there _is_ a kind of honor there.

Am I proud of them? The Starkmanir live, so I’m proud of _some_ of them, and of the Nefantar. The rest… I pity. Because they weren’t traitors or self-serving cowards. They were martyrs, in their way, sacrificed on the altar of necessity.

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