# Gank Related Megathread Pt. 2

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** pvp\
**Created:** [November 3, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894 "2022-11-03T15:53:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/209 "2022-11-17T08:50:25Z")

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They would just use GM commands to teleport away from certain death. 😛 :psyccp:

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/210 "2022-11-17T09:29:12Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> I think, CCP should give me a life long subscription and 1000 plex per month.

You would need to give them free access to your onlyfans account

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/211 "2022-11-17T11:15:59Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> I think, CCP should give me a life long subscription and 1000 plex per month. Just because I’m fabulous and they don’t want to loose such a critical influencer.

Personally I think we should receive a monthly ISK payment for defending Eve from the hordes of uncivilised carebear barbarians and vandals who have stormed the gates of Eve and want to turn it into PVE-Only-TeletubbieCarebearFarmville with AFK mining mandatory and free Netflix subscription thrown in.

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/212 "2022-11-17T13:26:18Z")

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> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> I can’t “do what I like” but I accept the fact

Make sure you quote it correctly and not what fits a narrative.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/213 "2022-11-17T15:14:20Z")

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Sure. Your partial quote makes it seem like you are OK with “I can’t do what I want”. However, here’s your full quote:

> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> I don’t like the fact that when my alts visit 0.0 and other I can’t “do what I like” but I accept the fact that in those places there is no margin of safety, but God forbid the reverse is true for one area of the game.

Unlike your own partial quote, you say you don’t like “I can’t do what I like without other players blowing me up” but accept it anyway in nullsec. And then moan about _neither_ liking _nor_ accepting “I can’t do what I like without other players blowing me up” in high sec.

And I called you out on it. Stop trying to dodge. It’s not a narrative, it’s calling you out for exactly what you are saying. At least own your words.

Every place in New Eden is fundamentally “I can do what I want” and no place is fundamentally “I can do what I want without getting blown up by players”.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/214 "2022-11-17T16:20:41Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> Every place in New Eden is fundamentally “I can do what I want”

Except as an alpha account in high sec. No gankyz for dem.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/215 "2022-11-17T21:41:54Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Except as an alpha account in high sec. No gankyz for dem.

I’ve seen the argument made that it is not right that free Alpha accounts be able to gank Omega noobs. Fair enough. The Omega is paying and the Alpha isn’t. But just as I am about to agree with the sentiment, I suddenly wonder why _that_ is not right yet a years old free Alpha can ‘compete’ with an Omega noob for asteroid ore _to a value that is greater than replacing any Venture_ and nobody bats an eyelid.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/216 "2022-11-17T22:07:30Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> with AFK mining mandatory

Sounds like a punishment for ganking.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/217 "2022-11-17T22:40:43Z")

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Sounds like the wet dream of @Iceacid_Frostpacker 🤭 ❄

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/218 "2022-11-18T00:27:13Z")

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What do you mean mandatory? I know how to do that now already.

My stream title was changed Stream Title to _Eve Online Live AFK Mining in Uedama_ from ~~Eve Online Live AFK Hauling to Jita~~ and not one ganker cared to visit.  
I waited for a entire 30 minutes too, so having some rule to make it become mandatory won’t automatically generate content and interaction.

Risk vs Reward is the issue and I/we read from time to time that Capsuleers are not taking huge risks anymore.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/219 "2022-11-18T00:36:15Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> and not one ganker cared to visit

I don’t gank solo players, I don’t clap, I don’t do jumping jacks, I don’t talk trash, I don’t steal loot. I don’t need the loot. I know, I’m the worst ganker ever.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/220 "2022-11-18T01:25:11Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> The Omega is paying and the Alpha isn’t.

This is why the alpha should be removed from the game, and CCP goes back to a 2 week limited free trial.

Also, CCP should seriously implement the blue check paid verification for forum usage. Open to anyone that is willing pays $8/month for one certified character to spam these hallowed halls.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/221 "2022-11-18T09:23:17Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Also, CCP should seriously implement the blue check paid verification for forum usage. Open to anyone that is willing pays $8/month for one certified character to spam these hallowed halls.

Tbh I too want to see the forums implode then close so I support this madness.

Mine character will be certified as CCP\_Hilmar(official)

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**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/223 "2022-11-18T10:28:00Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> $8/month for one certified character to spam these hallowed halls

Substracted from the Omega payment, sure I’d be for that.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/224 "2022-11-18T14:11:57Z")

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That’s where it gets tricky.

A flat rate fee across all accounts at the moment ensures that it’s fair. Now if alpha accounts were removed then I think the blue check mark should be rolled into the cost of Omega.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/226 "2022-11-18T14:41:53Z")

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After all, its done so well for Twitter.

We should also fire 80% of CCP and lock the other 20% out of their workplace too.

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**Author:** ![Total\_Bedlam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/total_bedlam/32/341964_2.png) [@Total\_Bedlam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Total_Bedlam)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/227 "2022-11-18T14:50:48Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Now if alpha accounts were removed then I think the blue check mark should be rolled into the cost of Omega.

By “rolled into” I assume you mean “included in”?  
Regardless how they do it, I wouldn’t be against Alphas not allowed on the forum. It would cut down on a lot of drama and ridiculous claims.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/228 "2022-11-18T15:19:52Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> Also, CCP should seriously implement the blue check paid verification for forum usage

I’d simply have it so a person had to nominate a single character from an Omega account, and once that character is used, no other character from the account can ever be used. And I’d ban Alphas completely from posting.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/229 "2022-11-18T15:30:46Z")

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Lets be honest CCP would save a lot of money and barely impact their dev’s ability to communicate by simply shutting down these forums and just using external social media like their Reddit, Discord, or Twitter. No one gets any speech.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-related-megathread-pt-2/382894/230 "2022-11-18T15:53:54Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I’d simply have it so a person had to nominate a single character from an Omega account,

This right here is what I was trying to say.

Although, if an alpha wants to pay 8$ /month to nominate a single character from their account I wouldn’t be opposed to that. After all, it would be a revenue stream.

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