# Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 5, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236 "2018-03-05T15:42:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/328 "2018-03-15T14:13:05Z")
1- I don’t link facebook stuff 2- Max is a good friend, why would I put in his mouth that aren’t his? 3- this is what I asked him > PEGs always have a field yes? Regardless of if in warp or just sitting there? And above quoted is his answer. Any other questions? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/329 "2018-03-15T14:15:15Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > PEGs always have a field yes? Regardless of if in warp or just sitting there? I don’t see that question in the screenshot. Nor did you ask if PEG field is the reason for bumping when not at warp. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > 1- I don’t link facebook stuff Well, you linked a screenshot off FB. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/330 "2018-03-15T14:22:52Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Then how do we know who “0” is? Please tone down your doxing attempts, this is certainly not the first time. Also evenif you don’t really understand how it works, just say “aaah, ok I see!” instead of making people chuckle with your answers. You were wrong, own up to it. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/331 "2018-03-15T14:30:18Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Nor did you ask if PEG field is the reason for bumping when not at warp. Ok now you’re just playing dumb > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Well, you linked a screenshot off FB. An edited screenshot to not doxx anyone… Because something something EULA ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/332 "2018-03-15T14:30:56Z")
> [@Major\_Errogance](#): > > Please tone down your doxing attempts, this is certainly not the first time. I’m not doxxing, or attempting to dox anyone. I’m questioning the validity of the screenshot. Where is the part where it is shown you asked the question you claimed below. Its not in the screenshot: > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > PEGs always have a field yes? Regardless of if in warp or just sitting there? Ill be contacting Max myself, probably this weekend, if he would confirm for me that the PEG field does indeed explain why ships not in warp repel each other, and if there are any caveats to that. Furthermore, Max does not work, and never has worked, for CCP, afaik. His theories/explanations are very interesting, but they are not actually CCP statements, afaik. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/333 "2018-03-15T14:46:42Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > but they are not actually CCP statements Here we go again… lol It’s like the book published by CCP with the exact same material as the Fanfest presentation was a lie to you 😂😂😂 I’m out, you’re beyond hope ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/334 "2018-03-15T14:48:47Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > It’s like the book published by CCP with the exact same material as the Fanfest presentation was a lie to you Can you cite me a section in a CCP published book that explicitly states that bumping as it is now in-game, outside of warp, is a result of a PEG field? ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Errogance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/major_errogance/32/57325_2.png) [@Major\_Errogance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Major_Errogance)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/335 "2018-03-15T15:09:57Z")
On a totally unrelated topic (but still not a BJ rant) : PS : Ask someone to help interpreting it. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/336 "2018-03-15T15:14:42Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Are you simply denying the truth because it’s not the one you wanted it to be? Wouldn’t be surprising, Salvos does that a lot… #Livesontheinternet #Bleedingheart4noobs #Specialsnowflakedefinitions #Draclivesmatter ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/337 "2018-03-15T15:26:44Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Can you cite me a section in a CCP published book that explicitly states that bumping as it is now in-game, outside of warp, is a result of a PEG field? Buy me the book and I will. And don’t forget my 6b47 helmet 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Wilhuff\_Peter\_Tarkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wilhuff_peter_tarkin/32/56469_2.png) [@Wilhuff\_Peter\_Tarkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wilhuff_Peter_Tarkin)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/338 "2018-03-15T15:34:04Z")
Hello my name is Whilhuff Peter Tarkin and I’m here to remind you that Dom is a nice guy, strange but nice. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/339 "2018-03-17T18:07:01Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Ill be contacting Max myself, Did you ask him yet? also why didn’t you ask thursday? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/340 "2018-03-18T06:32:55Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > Did you ask him yet? No, not yet. > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > also why didn’t you ask thursday? Why do you ask. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/341 "2018-03-18T15:20:02Z")
because I already know the answer you’re going to get 😃 don’t start believing His Holiness is unaware of this thread and all the dumb things you said 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/342 "2018-03-18T17:09:37Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > don’t start believing His Holiness is unaware of this thread and all the dumb things you said 😉 Translation: His Holiness has seen this thread and yes bumping while not in warp is due to the PEG. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Rogers01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buck_rogers01/32/60550_2.png) [@Buck\_Rogers01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buck_Rogers01)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/343 "2018-03-19T01:01:29Z")
Why not just have the ship, take damage that does bumping (ramming) . Damage taken based on ship size ,also random fitting module damage. The bigger ship being bumped takes much less because of mass of ship . This sounds easy to correct to me 1 bump no damage 2 bump hull damage… 3 bump increase damage by 4th or 5 bump hull damage Something like that… ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/344 "2018-03-19T02:01:58Z")
> [@Buck\_Rogers01](#): > > Why not just have the ship, take damage that does bumping (ramming) Because that idea is retarded 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/345 "2018-03-19T02:49:13Z")
> [@Buck\_Rogers01](#): > > Why not just have the ship, take damage that does bumping (ramming) You can find answers to that question is this thread, and every other thread it has been suggested in, on this forum and the old ones. It won’t have the desired outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/346 "2018-03-19T03:22:35Z")
> [@Buck\_Rogers01](#): > > Why not just have the ship, take damage that does bumping (ramming) . Jesus Christ… Yes! That is so brilliant!! I cyno into a system with a fleet in my carrier and my carrier and another ship “bump”…who takes damage?\ Software cannot determine who is bumping whom. And as such your idea becomes exploitable by the very people you want to hobble. As for multiple bumping all you’ll end up with is multiple bumpers and/or people repping the bumper. You are merely changing the parameters of the math equation. \_And…\_why should there be an issue at all with bumping? If you are getting bumped you screwed up at least 3 or more times in a row. 1. You over loaded your freighter. 2. You didn’t use a scout. 3. Your scout doesn’t have webs. When you make that many mistakes why should you _not_ suffer some consequences? Please provide an logical and cogent response or GTFOOFT. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/347 "2018-03-19T10:43:48Z")
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