# Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 5, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236 "2018-03-05T15:42:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/348 "2018-03-20T02:55:49Z")

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Did Salvos ask Max that thing yet?

No?

☹

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/349 "2018-03-20T11:02:39Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Chicken](#):
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> Did Salvos ask Max that thing yet?

No, not yet.

Not that it matters much.  
Max isnt CCP.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/350 "2018-03-20T13:51:37Z")

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I mean the book is CCP sanctioned lol  
That makes it actual lore supported by CCP.

Why do you still deny the truth?

You know that denial is the first step to acceptance yes? 😉

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/351 "2018-03-20T13:53:21Z")

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Its funny, and telling, how terrified you are of bump changes.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/352 "2018-03-20T13:54:29Z")

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I literally don’t give a fish about it  
Especially since it’s not going to change 😃

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/353 "2018-03-20T13:57:09Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> I literally don’t give a fish about it

Yeah… Nobody believes that and its clear you do care, a lot.  
Change to it scares the hell out of you.

I wouldnt be surprised if everyday you make a forum search for “bump”.

PS Wtf is “literally dont give a fish” supposed to mean?

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/354 "2018-03-20T13:59:11Z")

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Why would it scare me?  
I want to see why you care so much that I “care” about bumping lol

_Salvos Parrot mode engaged_

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/355 "2018-03-20T13:59:58Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Why would it scare me?  
> I want to see why you care so much that I “care” about bumping lol

Why do you care so much about bumping?

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/356 "2018-03-20T14:12:59Z")

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I asked you a question first

And then you go full parrot mode and expect me to answer and respect you? Lolwat

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/357 "2018-03-20T14:22:00Z")

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Weak.  
Very weak.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/358 "2018-03-20T14:51:10Z")

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Want to talk about it on discord?  
Or will you choke like last time?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/364 "2018-03-20T15:01:00Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> I’m not discussing anything else about that here
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> Regardless of your decision

As I said, its in voice or not at all.

> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> As for my discord name, ask Faylee

Im not going to ask anyone else, anything.  
Contact me by evemail when you can talk, and with what account name.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/366 "2018-03-20T15:25:42Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> I don’t even join my alliance comms and you expect me to get on comms with you
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> What’s so scary about text?  
> I can record anything either way 🙂

IDGAF if you join alliance comms in voice or not.  
That’s not my problem.

If you want to talk with me, it will be in voice.  
Record it if you want.

Either speak with me in voice, or stop wasting my and the boards time on this.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/368 "2018-03-20T15:38:57Z")

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Do you guys have to wreck this thread too?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/369 "2018-03-20T15:39:00Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Still haven’t answered my question?  
> Why not text? It gives the same exact end result

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> PS: Only if you agree to voice. Im done with your text horsecrap.

That is my answer.

If its text, we might as well do it here, which obviates your desire to talk outside these boards, via text also.

Speak with me in voice, or no deal.

PS: You already agreed to voice comm on discord in the text section, pending your time to get back from work. That never happened.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/370 "2018-03-20T15:41:35Z")

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Nah sorry  
I removed what was not needed

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> PS: You already agreed to voice comm on discord in the text section, pending your time to get back from work. That never happened.

Oh yes I did  
Except you made a fool of yourself and left beforehand 🙂  
Who’s to blame but you?

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/371 "2018-03-20T17:48:13Z")

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It’s the internet, if it can be wrecked, it shall be wrecked!

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/372 "2018-03-20T23:04:50Z")

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Well I for one am quite excited about potential bump changes considering the cockamamie ideas carebears come up with as proposed “solutions” lol.

Too bad it’s not going to change…

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/373 "2018-04-09T12:26:35Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> If I bump an Orca into a Freighter the Orca has a lot higher speed than max normal, so it would go suspect. Also prop mods are used by a lot of other people, namely miners who want to avoid bumping and I’m sure it could be used to make them go suspect as well.

Heh. I missed it. Nice!

(Game-wise speaking though i would allow such use cases 😈)

> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> You can normally only get a suspect flag if you set the safety to yellow. If the safety is on green I can’t do anything that would make me suspect. So what if I bump and have the safety to green? Do I slide trough the target or is that safety setting no longer important and we can suddenly become suspect while on green?

That’s what i was thinking about second way: make bumping fully work only with yellow-red SS. Else bumping only affects your ship: you bump away from other object and other object is not affected at all?

This way stations and other static objects will still be objects which you cannot get inside but bumping on purpose will be affected.

Mechanically speaking this system does not make any sense but lore-wise ship can do anti-bump automatically to prevent going suspect, blah-blah…

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/374 "2018-04-09T12:30:45Z")

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> [@March\_rabbit](#):
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> make bumping fully work only with yellow-red SS. Else bumping only affects your ship: you bump away from other object and other object is not affected at all?

No  
Because velocity vectors, etc etc  
Don’t be Salvos ples

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