# Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 5, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236 "2018-03-05T15:42:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/415 "2018-04-09T15:21:07Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > My question is if you have both the Command Destroyer and another ship headed straight towards each other and the mmjd happens, will the other ship maintain forward velocity and still be able to enter warp if he was within 5 degrees, but only at like 60% velocity? Afaik, the velocity of all ships jumped by the MWJG retain their velocity and vector. Ie: The ships continue just as before, in space, in all ways, except for having been moved 100km away. Nothing else is affected, except their location in space. Afaik, a ship that started the warp process before the jump, will continue on that as if they had not been jumped. * * * None of the above is relevant to bumping. Bump to displace a ship (or MWJG it, and I have discussed that earlier in this thread). But actual warp prevention, should remain in scram/disruptors/bubbles. Bump a ship to displace it. Poiint/bubble it to prevent it warping. This is not a difficult thing to realize. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/416 "2018-04-09T15:35:15Z")
It’s relevant to the comment you made about modules not displacing. I vote NO! ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/417 "2018-04-09T15:37:21Z")
Bump should bump. Point should point. Bubble should bubble. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/418 "2018-04-09T15:40:01Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Bump should bump. Already does. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Point should point. Already does. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Bubble should bubble. Already does. Nothing left to discuss here 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/419 "2018-04-09T15:42:13Z")
I agree, everything works as it should ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/420 "2018-04-09T15:44:14Z")
Bump currently, erroneously, additionally to displacement, has a tackle effect that overlaps points. Points have no bump effect. Bubbles effect everyone inside them. A bump should not constitute a tackle. It should just bump. If you want to tackle, use point modules. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/421 "2018-04-09T15:47:39Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Bump currently, erroneously, additionally to displacement, has a tackle effect that overlaps points. No it does not > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Points have no bump effect. And that’s fine > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Bubbles effect everyone inside them. Not interdiction nullified ships > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > A bump should not constitute a tackle. > > It should just bump. It does constitute a tackle > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If you want to tackle, use point modules. People do Everything seems fine. Can we move on? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/422 "2018-04-09T15:50:07Z")
TLDR: “Plz dont nerf bump, cos I dont want to point”. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/423 "2018-04-09T15:51:20Z")
Please don’t comment on topics you have obviously no clue about. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/424 "2018-04-09T15:53:13Z")
“Oh no, plz dont nerf teh bump!” “I needz it cos I cant fit a point on a ship!” ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/425 "2018-04-09T15:57:47Z")
Since you have no arguments left and resort to childish behaviour I think we can conclude the thread is done. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/426 "2018-04-09T15:58:40Z")
Do you know how to fit a point, or not? Its not difficult, or expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/427 "2018-04-09T15:59:27Z")
“Please make objects warps me when you’re within 45 degrees because I’m bad and enjoy flying 8b in a triple -expanded freighter. Please do this for me because me dying is totally not preventable nor is it my fault!” ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/428 "2018-04-09T15:59:39Z")
Bumping is in no way a replacement for a point. All my ships have points fitted ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/429 "2018-04-09T16:00:48Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Bumping is in no way a replacement for a point. All my ships have points fitted Good. Then point them to point them, and bump them to displace them. The change wont hurt you at all. ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/430 "2018-04-09T16:02:10Z")
But changing warp mechanics may very well hurt everyone. –Gadget, off to lunch ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/431 "2018-04-09T16:02:14Z")
I do. There is no change required since bumping does not tackle a target ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/432 "2018-04-09T16:03:16Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > There is no change required since bumping does not tackle a target You claim a bump doesnt cause a tackle? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/433 "2018-04-09T16:04:15Z")
> [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](#): > > But changing warp mechanics may very well hurt everyone. Nah, it wont hurt anyone. Just use scram/disruptor/bubble instead to prevent warp. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/434 "2018-04-09T16:04:18Z")
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