# Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 5, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236 "2018-03-05T15:42:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/922 "2018-04-12T12:03:44Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > The forum has never been a good yardstick of community attitude. We are just a very small, very committed group of nerds that speak loudly as though we somehow matter. > > Other forums often hold the exact opposite view of the things we crow about here. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/6/a6506d46ca06373dd14990da19519e7019ba57f6.png) Yes exactly, the Eve forums do not matter at all, if they don’t even notice that a lot of hisec players really did want that and were utterly bemused why it did not happen and there was no feedback too. It confirms that CCP is utterly clueless, initially I was really annoyed, but then I started to find it immensely funny, which is actually worse… ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/923 "2018-04-12T12:03:52Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Those using real players are minority and if it buffs them I am fine with it. It would ALSO buff illegitimate mulitboxers. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/924 "2018-04-12T12:05:21Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Yes exactly, the Eve forums do not matter at all, If that is what you believe, then take your crap elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/925 "2018-04-12T12:05:46Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If that is what you believe, then take your crap elsewhere. Are you an ISD? ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/926 "2018-04-12T12:06:07Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You dont see a problem with 10 Omega player fielding another 10 Alphas alongside them, leading to 20 ships to deal with as opposed to only 10? > > Are you pulling my leg, or do you really not see the problem not just related to ganks, but throughout EVE? EVERYONE has said and understands that its 1 Alpha + unlimited Omegas you thick as a pile of bricks dumbass 😂 I’d think you were a troll but it’s pretty obvious you just aren’t very smart. > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Killing those bloody afk Orcas with DCU2 and bulkhead2 (and freighters too) is near impossible. Such change would help us big time. You’re an antiganker, nobody belives you’re a ganker. What was your main again? Still waiting ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/927 "2018-04-12T12:07:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Are you an ISD? No. Are you? Jesus christ the butthurt belligerency you are displaying. I dont need to be an ISD to tell you to leave a place you dont think matters anymore. Your Omega + 1 Alpha proposal is utter crap. I called you on that. Either deal with it, or make another thread, leave or continue o pretend it isnt. Fks sake, man. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/928 "2018-04-12T12:08:32Z")
I shared my identity to Ima Wreckyou not sure why heshe didn’t shared it, actually I haven’t see him/her lately much. Damn, it is not even so hard to find out, miners already connected both my corps 😉. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/929 "2018-04-12T12:10:06Z")
Just post it here then, I don’t care enough about some loser antiganker to find your main/alts I’m a pretty big deal, and you’re some nobody ager 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/930 "2018-04-12T12:10:09Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > No. > > Are you? > > Jesus christ the butthurt belligerency you are displaying. > > I dont need to be an ISD to tell you to leave a place you dont think matters anymore. > > Your Omega + 1 Alpha proposal is utter crap. > > I called you on that. Either deal with it, or make another thread, leave or continue o pretend it isnt. > > Fks sake, man. You really need to chill out, I am starting to get worried about you. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/931 "2018-04-12T12:11:41Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You really need to chill out. You really need to stop talking nonsense, and owning it when you do. The crap you are posting is pathetic. Take your proposal to include an Alpha for every Omega to a thread that is relevant. This one is not. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/932 "2018-04-12T12:12:39Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Take your proposal to include an Alpha for every Omega to a thread that is relevant. > > This one is not. That is your incorrect interpretation of it, so no. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/933 "2018-04-12T12:13:24Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > That is your incorrect interpretation of it, so no. Did you or did you not propose that an Omega could run an Alpha at the same time? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/934 "2018-04-12T12:15:21Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Did you or did you not propose that an Omega could run an Alpha at the same time? It is in the thread above, an alpha is limited to one computer, you do know that don’t you? I cannot run two Alpha’s on the same computer. Also you are asking me not to talk about it and then asking about it, make up your damn mind? ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/935 "2018-04-12T12:16:06Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Did you or did you not propose that an Omega could run an Alpha at the same time? It’s not enough your an idiot, you have to be aggressively stupid and spit all over the place. The Keyword is “an alpha” not an alpha for every omega like you’ve made up in your mind, just say sorry to everyone and leave it be. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/936 "2018-04-12T12:16:26Z")
Meanwhile, Hillmar’s talk at the Fanfest intro was hype. Looking forward to the new mobile game and FPS on PC. Go sign up [Project Nova](http://https//www.ccpgames.com/projectnova) ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/937 "2018-04-12T12:18:14Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is in the thread above, an alpha is limited to one computer, you do know that don’t you? This is utterly false. The restriction does not apply to a computer, it applies to the PLAYER. Get this into your head. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/938 "2018-04-12T12:20:56Z")
Technically, you aren’t limited to player but computer. There are ppls abusing this fact and afaik they go along without punishment. By EULA you are limited to one alpha per player indeed. But if you have second computer you can dualbox alphas just fine. It might get you banned but I haven’t heard of anyone getting banned for this yet. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/939 "2018-04-12T12:21:12Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > This is utterly false. > > The restriction does not apply to a computer, it applies to the PLAYER. > > Get this into your head. Bleh! I have made my point, you just want to have some sort of inane argument over it or cause an emotional response to your baiting. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/940 "2018-04-12T12:22:51Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Bleh! Its a FACT. No player is allowed to run multiple accounts simultaneously, unless all are Omegas. Did you not know that, and are now trying to backpedal out of the crap you posted and derailment you caused thereby? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > an alpha is limited to one computer, you do know that don’t you? This is FALSE. An Alpha is limited to one online per player. You CANNOT legally fly more than one Alpha at a time, no an Omega at the same time, no matter how many clients/computers/etc you have. If you are currently doing so, or have done so in the past, you have violated TOS/EULA. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/941 "2018-04-12T12:27:51Z")
Miner, calm down You only understand what you want, that’s a fact confirmed by a ton of people on the forums [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236.md?page=43) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236.md?page=45)