# Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 5, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236 "2018-03-05T15:42:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1345 "2018-04-20T13:56:27Z")
> [@Exaido](#): > > @Salvos Rhoska you’re getting trolled dude. Am I? All I see is him getting wrecked on a fail-troll attempt. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1346 "2018-04-20T13:56:30Z")
Nah He’s being told very cleverly that nothing has to change 😃 Which is the ultimate truth 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Exaido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/exaido/32/374242_2.png) [@Exaido](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Exaido)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1347 "2018-04-20T13:58:07Z")
Yeah… It’s starting to feel like watching someone drown puppies, it starts out all cute then that bucket of water starts getting full… ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1348 "2018-04-20T13:59:23Z")
> [@Exaido](#): > > It’s starting to feel like watching someone drown puppies More like drowning a bag full of cockroaches. Takes awhile, but eventually they stop kicking. ---
**Author:** ![Exaido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/exaido/32/374242_2.png) [@Exaido](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Exaido)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1349 "2018-04-20T14:00:29Z")
Siegfried is all sarcasm in his posts, replying to them - he wins the troll - granted Siegfried is pretty funny - so it’s kinda okay. But he ain’t being “wrekt”. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1350 "2018-04-20T14:01:27Z")
> [@Exaido](#): > > But he ain’t being “wrekt”. Oh, he is wrekt. The whole “downtime counter” thing took just a single flush. ---
**Author:** ![Exaido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/exaido/32/374242_2.png) [@Exaido](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Exaido)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1351 "2018-04-20T14:02:54Z")
I am on your side in so much as ‘bumping’ is a broken mechanic, not emergent gameplay. But that’s the long and the short. “Downtime Counter” - was a joke dude, it meant he couldn’t bump someone for indefinitely only for 23 hours - that’s pretty funny as a comment. And the joke furthered in so much as bumping has a counter, downtime. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1352 "2018-04-20T14:04:09Z")
Funny or not, its wrecked and over. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1353 "2018-04-20T14:05:25Z")
You’re still talking about it tho… Oof ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1354 "2018-04-20T14:06:03Z")
@Salvos_Rhoska how do you bump ships btw? Approach and wait? Lol ---
**Author:** ![Exaido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/exaido/32/374242_2.png) [@Exaido](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Exaido)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1355 "2018-04-20T14:07:18Z")
This thread is bumping 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Exaido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/exaido/32/374242_2.png) [@Exaido](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Exaido)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1356 "2018-04-20T14:07:43Z")
Try as I might, I can’t warp out of it ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1357 "2018-04-20T14:08:07Z")
25mins is the hardcap suggestion from the Miniluv report. I’m ok with that. It both restricts perma-bump, and leaves enough time for gank action. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1358 "2018-04-20T14:09:40Z")
You can get friends to gank the bumper, or counter-bump him Or you can be cautious in the first place… allowing you to see that there’s bumpers waiting for juicy targets 😉 Patience is a virtue ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1359 "2018-04-20T14:10:01Z")
> [@Exaido](#): > > Try as I might, I can’t warp out of it Nothing is preventing you from leaving this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_cohenberg/32/515703_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Cohenberg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1360 "2018-04-20T14:10:42Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > 25mins is the hardcap suggestion from the Miniluv report. > > I’m ok with that. > > It both restricts perma-bump, and leaves enough time for gank action. There should be a 25 minute hardcap for how long it takes the hauler to send me their isk. I should not have to wait longer than 25 minutes. Time is money. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1361 "2018-04-20T14:12:24Z")
If you cant do it in 25 mins, well, then you are crap. ---
**Author:** ![Exaido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/exaido/32/374242_2.png) [@Exaido](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Exaido)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1362 "2018-04-20T14:12:38Z")
They should have a collectible called, Nudes - it’d look like a Pod Corpse, except labelled as [Character Name] Nude. “Send ISK or Nudes”. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_cohenberg/32/515703_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Cohenberg)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1363 "2018-04-20T14:15:57Z")
I’m actually quite good at what I do. Because of the generosity of the haulers of eve, I’m able to sub all 10 of my accounts. You see if every hauler were to be like the ones that donate their freighters and isk, there would be no need for freighter ganking. Until that day comes when all haulers gain clarity on who should really own that space truck, we’re just going to need to forcefully remove them from their ship. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1364 "2018-04-20T14:17:23Z")
Then a 25min hardcap wont be a problem for you. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236.md?page=64) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236.md?page=66)