# Gankers and freighters, a request for discussion. Not a BJ RANT **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 5, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236 "2018-03-05T15:42:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1554 "2018-04-21T15:31:20Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > I think I’ve gotten permanent brain damage with all the stupidities Salvos, Drac and that other clueless guy said… Well Dom, I picked up while in the war dec Discord that certain mercs referred to you as DumbDumb. I however was not important enough or noticeable enough to have been given such a name… 😛 PS Just sayin… ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1555 "2018-04-21T16:11:23Z")
Removed A Of Topic Post. ---
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alpha_askiras/32/51661_2.png) [@Alpha\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alpha_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1556 "2018-04-21T16:31:03Z")
If you’re being bumped can’t you just safe log? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1557 "2018-04-21T16:35:46Z")
No as they lock you too. In eve terms yellow box you, and while locked you cannot safe log. This is another change CCP could make if they felt like it, the gankers would simply have to do an act of aggression. But the howls of anguish from the gankers would be heard across the Earth… PS Watch as multiple Gankers suggest that me mentioning this means I want to end all ganking and am pushing for CCP to implement it now or else. Will be rather amsuing to read. Ima will grind her teeth and start typing some finely honed insult in her second language, DumDum will foam at the mouth and Sol will post something nonsensical and totally irrelevant, oh and think he is clever. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1558 "2018-04-21T17:16:03Z")
> [@Alpha\_Askiras](#): > > If you’re being bumped can’t you just safe log? No, as per what Dracvlad said, but you can just log off normally. If they don’t aggress you (that is shoot you with something and be CONCORDed) with a few minutes you will be removed from space safely. The downside of this is that your ship will remain in space effectively unpiloted and not benefit from any skills or implants you have, and if they let it emergency warp before aggression, they will have a more private place to administer the _coup de grâce_. If they really are going to gank you, then it will be much easier for them. It is probably is not a bad way to call their bluff, at least if you do it right away before they have too much time to prepare, and log in a few minutes later so you can try another tactic if they persist. It won’t save you if they really are serious, but it might get you out of someone just trying to lazily ransom you or trick you into a duel. Then again, it might not, so if you find yourself in such a situation, I suggest you spend the time searching the forums or Google for tips on how to avoid being bumped in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1559 "2018-04-21T18:11:06Z")
No. Your warp drive still works. So it can’t be a scram. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1560 "2018-04-21T18:14:47Z")
It is still true though. An orca can fit one and can use it when bumped. Here is the test bump a freighter. When it is bumped pick a celestial and click warp to. You will hear “warp drive active.” Now do it that again but instead of bumping use a scram. When you hit warp to you will hear nothing because your warp drive is not working. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1561 "2018-04-21T18:17:28Z")
Which was noted scores of posts ago. No way that 5 hour bumping was done AFK…if it happened at all. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1562 "2018-04-21T18:25:04Z")
Ok so AFK bumping for 5 hours is total bullshite. As was stated well over 100 posts ago. And we have no way to really confirm the 5 hours claim. It is the Internet where I am 6’3” tall, look like a young Clint Eastwood, live on the coast in an amazing area and spend all day surfing and cavorting with hot surfer chicks…right? ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1563 "2018-04-21T18:31:28Z")
> [@Exaido](#): > > Could I bump someone for 5 hrs? sure - it’s like mining for 5 hrs. Yes but you get something from that 5 hours. What did the bumper get for his efforts? Tears? Loot? What? These stories smell to high heaven of bullcrap because they never tell the whole story. No names. No killmail. No system name. Not even the damn type of freighter. These stories hing on people seeing the dubious time duration and becoming outraged. They also himge on the principle of charity. In short the lack of details, the fact that it is the budfy of a budfy…sorry a load of cow dung. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1564 "2018-04-21T18:31:46Z")
ask me if I care it’s a nickname on the internet if it makes people happy idc p.s. it’s Dumdum, you’re the dumbdumb ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1565 "2018-04-21T18:51:06Z")
Walk towards the light Dom, recant your previous ganking ways. ( instant boost to IQ by 150 points ) And we promise to call you by your own pet nick name : Dum Dum ( as in the bullet ) Only a short time offer… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1566 "2018-04-21T19:43:06Z")
Well you did seem to care in the Discord and asked for another name, but I could have been hallucinating due to having to read Sol’s posts. But sorry Dumdum is better, I think and I have corrected it. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1567 "2018-04-21T20:04:31Z")
> [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](#): > > By the by: remember how you split with Kaely cause VMG decced Code. Guess who paid VMG? ( and I hated VMG almost as much as Codies) > > 😀😀😀 Wait… You payed VMG to wardec an alliance full of -10 you can attack without wardec? Hope it was cheap 😂😂😂 ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1568 "2018-04-21T20:24:32Z")
It was worth every isk. 😀 Tora was initially pisssed, when I told him I spent the iskies on a rival Alliance, but when we saw the first cracks appear… To see Dom, who was introduced to ganking by Kaely ( who previously sat on you Codie leadership team ) start to publicly bicker. Culminating in the Tanniss famous melt down blog. Documented for posterity in Ralphs “Fall of Romi thread”. Days n weeks of tears n dirty laundry aired in public…by two gankers. Yes isk well spent. 😂😂😂 ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1570 "2018-04-21T20:42:25Z")
> [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](#): > > who was introduced to ganking by Kaely she didn’t gank therefore she wasn’t the one showing me how to gank. she also wasn’t leadership so please inform yourself better instead ofmaking goofus statements as always 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1571 "2018-04-21T20:43:40Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/b/5b63b429023035d4db0ae476a75047c9131f4182.jpg) don’t kthxbai ---
**Author:** ![Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vipsan_agrippa/32/18391_2.png) [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vipsan_Agrippa)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1572 "2018-04-21T20:44:16Z")
Not what she said (ref leadership team ) and not what her KB indicates. You read. You know. Poor form wasting what lil integrity you have. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1573 "2018-04-21T21:02:39Z")
> [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](#): > > As for Zopiclone then the Kusions ripping you off only to be welcomed back, just makes the leadership of Code look Cockhold. But you have always been a bunch of cucks. So true that…, the cuck part that is… And welcome back, I have seriously missed you! ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236/1574 "2018-04-21T21:18:04Z")
> [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](#): > > Zopiclone he didn’t last long > [@Vipsan\_Agrippa](#): > > Kusions if you still think that whole _Kusion stole 500b_ thing, you really need better sources 😂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236.md?page=74) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-and-freighters-a-request-for-discussion-not-a-bj-rant/61236.md?page=76)