# Gankers are Not Polite or Patient with Miners **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [December 28, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387 "2024-12-28T06:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/268 "2025-01-28T10:14:20Z")
Unfortunately , the Frostpackers see that as a reward for bad behaviour. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/7/407282d877cca62922866c61750351511430520b.png) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/269 "2025-01-28T10:26:56Z")
Maybe Aiko’s approach was the right one from the beginning, attention deprivation in the form of blocking them might be the only solution in the long term. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/270 "2025-01-28T14:16:10Z")
If the cpu and power grid fit then it must be true! / > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Are you saying @Zaera_Keena is an F1 monkey or something? 🤔 At least I was not referring towards Fang being an average ganker. I said average then you quickly placed her into the same bucket as half of HS gankers! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/271 "2025-01-29T00:32:55Z")
Every ganker is an F1 monkey. It’s the fastest way to turn on 6 guns. Funny thing is that miners are not F1 monkeys. Strip Miners cannot be grouped together which means you’d have to hit F1 and F2. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/272 "2025-01-29T01:08:13Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > just a big empty balloon But he’s full of _very_ hot air! Should I offer a reward for the sound of a Frosty popping to see how loud it is? I could only offer 1 bil this time as alphas don’t make much isk… 😆 > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > blocking them might be the only solution What? And miss all the entertainment he brings? 🙃 Much like the rest of this thd. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/273 "2025-01-29T01:47:18Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Every ganker is an F1 monkey. It’s the fastest way to turn on 6 guns. I’ve never hit F1 in my entire time in EVE. A good accurate mouse is all I need. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/274 "2025-01-29T01:57:44Z")
I like to combine the two. While I’m control clicking targets with my mouse, I’m hitting F1 and 1 (for mid slot- target painting). It works for me ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/275 "2025-01-29T02:27:34Z")
Nothing more than another ganker swill thread. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/276 "2025-01-29T04:24:54Z")
That’s cause your pilots are always mouse clicking your blasters while still in warp. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/277 "2025-01-29T08:08:23Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > sound of a Frosty popping Popping him would end his performance, as you note it is more funny to witness it. 😉 > [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > And miss A noble sacrifice to trigger his reaction for everyone else to see and enjoy. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/278 "2025-01-29T12:43:16Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > That’s cause your pilots are always mouse clicking your blasters while still in warp. Nah..its undock, or warp in via gate…preheat blasters…fleet warp…lock target…warp scram…fire blasters…move in closer. Generally that order, and the entire sequence might take 10 - 20 seconds depending on the warp in distance. The actual attack is just a few seconds…all over pretty quick. People say use d-scan against gankers…but I’d argue that against an incoming gank fleet _it makes zero difference_. By the time the fleet is on the move, it is too late. There’s more than enough time between hitting ‘lock’ and the lock actually taking effect, to move the cursor from the ‘lock’ icon to the blasters icon. The only real variable is how close one lands to the target, as blasters have a quite short range. I’ve also bounced off asteroids, which can totally mess up the range. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/279 "2025-01-29T13:12:34Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > People say use d-scan against gankers…but I’d argue that against an incoming gank fleet _it makes zero difference_. By the time the fleet is on the move, it is too late. Not if the miner mines pre-aligned and ready to hit warp. In that case even just seeing the fleet arrive on grid should be enough time (though lag might be an issue when it comes to specific edge cases but that is unrelated to the general principle). ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/280 "2025-01-29T14:30:48Z")
Getting Aligned isn’t enough. You also need to be at max velocity which doesn’t work when mining. The key is to mark every ganking corp as RED and run the second you see more than one red ship enter local. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/281 "2025-01-29T15:05:00Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > You also need to be at max velocity First of all 75% velocity not max. and second you can use this to make it viable: > **[Medium Higgs Anchor I | EVE Ref](https://everef.net/types/34268)** > > This unique rig generates drag against the energy field of space itself, causing the fitted ship to increase in mass and agility while greatly reducing maximum velocity. > This effect also reduces a shi Further reading: > **[Mining aligned - EVE University Wiki](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Mining_aligned)** ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/282 "2025-01-29T15:15:38Z")
Ooohh nice!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/283 "2025-01-29T16:14:57Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Not if the miner mines pre-aligned and ready to hit warp. Which is not all that practical if you are wanting to stay near an asteroid, as alignment involves moving at least at 75% max speed. I prefer to just mine on the opposite side of the asteroid belt to the landing point, and at max laser range. And then just be wary of anyone coming too close. There are asteroid belts so big that a ship would need several warps to reach me. It would be highly suspicious in such belts if anyone came closer than 100km. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/284 "2025-01-29T16:27:15Z")
🤔 🤭 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/285 "2025-01-29T23:09:17Z")
Will have it be known that our ceo received life advice from Perimeter local. That happened many years ago… ![IMG_7639](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/0/0/10049325b82c10c8d75012582c3ebb6833926fb2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/286 "2025-01-30T01:46:46Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > People say use d-scan against gankers…but I’d argue that against an incoming gank fleet _it makes zero difference_. By the time the fleet is on the move, it is too late. It works for me, I don’t know why it doesn’t work for you? Maybe I pay even more attention to my surroundings than you, again, don’t know? Having started the game as a hunter, I always know there is someone like me hunting me. In hs, you have an even bigger advantage with local. Spend yrs successfully in a wh and avoiding hs gankers is a breeze. I even say hello to the local ganking squads. Why not, they know there not going to catch me and turn out to be friendly when I chat with them? In EVE, one should have sense of humor with the experience to match. > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > F1 I made most of my isk in a wh. Dscan=life. Didn’t bother me to be an active player. Sure, my transports get popped now and then, big deal. I like holding alignment till they show up on grid as I then warp out. 😜 > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > And then just be wary of anyone coming too close. I pride myself on getting my wifes toon to apx 2500 of a target inside an asteroid belt, pinpoint the target, then warping out as I land. In a wh encounter I had, the target missed the renter who tipped me off, my wifes toon undocking and finally, my combat toon undocking. Never saw any of the 3 ships and called me lame for killing a ![snowflake](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/d/4/ad446878b54d7222ae94095582b33e63ff923b8d.jpeg). I take it you don’t want to waste time scanning? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-are-not-polite-or-patient-with-miners/472387/287 "2025-01-30T01:47:25Z")
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