# Gankers do not make EVE a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [October 13, 2022, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392 "2022-10-13T11:57:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/61 "2022-10-23T20:21:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/62 "2022-10-23T20:50:43Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > That was entirely too much logic and rational thought for the Eve forums. The guy couldn’t even reply to the constructive criticism directly and had to make-believe everyone else was crying. He doesn’t participate in the forums so completely missed the threads where players discuss ways to retain players _that isn’t about ganking_, so just trashes the regulars for no reason. Then doubles-down on his fallacious evidence. And we get called the ones with “toxic attitudes”! 🤣 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/63 "2022-10-23T21:20:15Z")
> [@Igot\_Candy](#): > > And the GM’s/Dev’s wonder why no one bothers to bring these topics up on the forums… Ahh you’re just trolling. Got it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/64 "2022-10-24T06:48:40Z")
The issues you are raising have all been discussed before. If you were quicker to search this forum on the topic than you are to castigate you would know that. The conflict of interests opposing players bring to the table _is_ the game. Neuter it and we have nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/65 "2022-10-24T12:10:41Z")
> [@Silvien\_Swift](#): > > Instadock bookmarks solve this issue Yes, but why do some research into how to avoid ganking when you can just ask CCP to ban it because you are into PVE and make EVE a boring safe space ? ---
**Author:** ![Oskar\_Milde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oskar_milde/32/396309_2.png) [@Oskar\_Milde](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oskar_Milde)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/66 "2022-10-24T17:04:54Z")
> [@Igot\_Candy](#): > > At this point with roughly 25,000 active players, CCP is making about $500K/mo + pack sales in income Ahh, see you’ve made the common mistake. You’ve taken some figure around the max concurrent users, and assumed this to be the total number of users. ERRRRRRRRK wrong. You may be one of those that logs in all day with all your toons. There are still a few around, presumably people who don’t pay their electricity bill. For the overwhelming majority, they log in for the few hours they’re playing, and then log back out again. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/67 "2022-10-25T06:26:44Z")
Locking a gate or a station as mentioned above wouldn’t meet the ability for a Capsuleer to repair their security status and would go against having that option. The cost of the Clone Soldier Transporter Tag is however a little too low in value and perhaps the frequently rate needs adjustment. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/68 "2022-10-25T10:50:51Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > The cost of the Clone Soldier Transporter Tag is however a little too low in value and perhaps the frequently rate needs adjustment. Is it really? I spend 2bils/month for them just for one toon. Remember that these days you need like 5 toons to kill one retriever (well tanked one). Either way thew price is market driven supply demand, there is however an extra fee at CONCORD, 5mil for transported and 10mil for negotiator if I am not mistaken, that adds up. If anything, this system needs a revamp and change the threshold for recruiter to be from -4 and not -5. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/69 "2022-10-25T11:23:28Z")
So my opposed counter to a change such as; > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > revamp and change the threshold for recruiter to be from -4 and not -5. Would be that to sit in Highsec and gank at gates would require the pilot to be in A Corp that is _war_ eligible. Reasoning is that to counter such setup a pilot needs to then become a Highsec Pirate Ganker to attack the Battlecruisers sitting under the gates. It is pointless waiting for the criminal act. When waiting for the crimal flag is the role of a antiganker. The role when a Corp declares war on another Corp is not for antiganking reasons but for PVP targets to interact with and sitting on a under a gate with a repaired security status should be able to also become a target via Wardec. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/70 "2022-10-25T11:38:03Z")
Lol you realize this change does not affect station/gate gankers do you? The change I am proposing only makes it more likely for gankers to not go all the way up to -10 and increasing demand for recruiter tag where there is 0 right now. (Which is what carebears claims to want us to do btw.) Btw who is gonna wardec us? NEPF- ? They have no structures for reason, they won’t wardec us - they prefer the safety of not being legally attackable and attacking themselves from backup. Its not like we asked for being immune to wars, gankers were ganking at gates when wars were a thing. That was carebears and gank-haters who cried for this. We simply abuse it the same way they can. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/71 "2022-10-25T11:41:07Z")
There is more to it, as the thread debate is about do Gankers make a better place or not. The Highsec Ganker would require being inside a Corp that is currenlty War Eligible to be able to set their flag setting to Red up from Orange/Yellow. That is my goal for typing in what was typed, ---
**Author:** ![Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madamal_yiryi_dethahal/32/375865_2.png) [@Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madamal_Yiryi_Dethahal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/72 "2022-10-25T17:05:57Z")
So listen… I understand you and i hate gankers myself. BUT if you get robbed irl and the dude who robbed you escaped you cant do much can you? You could be preventive next time and carry less of value or have a friend look if the robber is there or find a shortcut to avoid him and while your being robed spraypaint him with a red spraycan. translated into eve langue this means: Be more careful have less isk in cargo,send an alt or a friend as a scout, seet a instadock bookmark (a bookmark thats so close to a station you can dock instantly, also make an insta warpout (take a punisher with mwd or a fast ship undock and fly a straight line for about 10.000km and save location) each time you undock you then warp there instantly. and mark him as a negative contact (red). ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/73 "2022-10-25T18:47:32Z")
> [@Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](#): > > …i hate gankers myself. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/9/c9dcc363e76724e5bd0b1769f34310f72eff05c1.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/3/f/13fc5c9d214bbf9d65e5ecdf381bd02f7f44a56c.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madamal_yiryi_dethahal/32/375865_2.png) [@Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madamal_Yiryi_Dethahal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/74 "2022-10-25T20:31:28Z")
Lol… xd ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/75 "2022-10-25T21:36:13Z")
Gankers are people too you know… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Stephan\_Pappotte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stephan_pappotte/32/376519_2.png) [@Stephan\_Pappotte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stephan_Pappotte)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/76 "2022-10-25T22:54:26Z")
It may not, however it does make great entertainment 😂🤣 > **[Hecate | Destiny Corrupted | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/104151201/)** > > Destiny Corrupted (Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company) lost their Hecate in Bagodan (Domain) Total Value: 455,409,836.37 ISK ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/77 "2022-10-26T11:20:30Z")
> [@Satanis\_Asimp](#): > > If you’re not as determined to spend the time and effort to integrate and commit all your leisure time to this game Firstly eve isn’t everyone’s life, secondly ganking is almost 100% copy and paste play, this game shouldn’t consume one’s “leisure” time to the point of obsession, it’s a game not a point to extract a feeling of accomplishment. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/78 "2022-10-26T11:31:35Z")
> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#): > > ganking is almost 100% copy and paste play Mining and mission running _is_ 100% copy and paste gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/79 "2022-10-26T12:06:10Z")
> [@Stephan\_Pappotte](#): > > however it does make great entertainment Only a hecate? If you gonna gank, do it in style. > **[Loki | Zaera Keena | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94175277/)** > > Zaera Keena (God of Terrorr) lost their Loki in Mista (Domain). Final Blow by Iliasaur Azizorra (24th Imperial Crusade) flying in a Retriever. Total Value: 529,054,327.74 ISK ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/d/f/4df870d76722d29ccc041283e54012dba6ef77c3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392/80 "2022-10-26T16:16:30Z")
Agree, almost every game is copy and paste repetitive play, I mean how many times does one have to gank till they are repeating a game play. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-do-not-make-eve-a-better-place/380392.md?page=5)