# Gankers During High-Sec PVE missions?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833>\
**Category:** Missions\
**Created:** [June 24, 2026, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833 "2026-06-24T08:50:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2026, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/102 "2026-08-18T17:07:29Z")

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> [@Shagai\_Pon](#):
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> - DO AGGRESS on ship who is attacking your MTU, assuming you can kill it.

Exactly this. Chances are they’re flying a small, weakly tanked ship, like a Hecate or a Nergal. Your mission battleship can easily kill it, you just need to lower the transversal. The trick is to hit approach and start shooting, this will force him into PvP and CONCORD won’t help him. Then you can loot his wreck and turn the situation around.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_tapioca_terrorist/32/493091_2.png) [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Tapioca_Terrorist)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/103 "2026-08-19T04:44:00Z")

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> [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#):
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> The trick is to hit approach and start shooting, this will force him into PvP

chances are thats what they want..

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**Author:** ![Silvien\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/silvien_swift/32/376083_2.png) [@Silvien\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Silvien_Swift)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/104 "2026-08-19T08:05:59Z")

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> [@Brutor\_Matar](#):
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> Does Fenris Creations need to make a PVE server with different rules like other companies do.

Play in Exordium, no pvp there.

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**Author:** ![Tadaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tadaru/32/496872_2.png) [@Tadaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tadaru)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/105 "2026-08-19T08:59:13Z")

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when someone fly to my missi i take my mtu back and flag all wrecks for everyone so he can loot them

it is sometimes easy and dont flame them be nice to them this is there job and they do it well!

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/106 "2026-08-19T15:17:38Z")

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> [@Brutor\_Matar](#):
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> Gankers pride themselves because they don’t have competition

This again. I’ll never forget that carebears are the one who created that mess. They deserved every gank in HS with no competition. RIP to the real Ag’s.

> **[Changes to Security Status & Abyssal Filaments | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/changes-to-security-status-and-abyssal-filaments)**
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> New changes to outlaw behavior in high security space & activation of Abyssal filaments

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/107 "2026-08-19T16:33:48Z")

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These were all good changes - especially the no “red flag” in high-sec for Alphas.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/108 "2026-08-19T21:07:34Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> These were all good changes

Before those changes. You can shoot Gankers BEFORE they attack.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/109 "2026-08-19T21:08:38Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> Before those changes. You can shoot Gankers BEFORE they attack.

How do you figure?

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/110 "2026-08-19T21:08:55Z")

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they are all -10’s

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/111 "2026-08-19T21:10:12Z")

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I don’t ever recall a time where gankers were all -10’s. There have been Tornados parked off Jita for over a decade…

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/112 "2026-08-19T21:12:31Z")

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ah those sitting ducks are the exceptions. You can gank them if you want.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/113 "2026-08-19T21:13:28Z")

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I don’t ever recall being able to generally shoot “flashy reds” unless it was immediately after a gank.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/114 "2026-08-19T21:17:47Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> I don’t ever recall

I know. I’m with the AG’s before. Thier way of play style are Sg’s like but legally until the security change.

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**Author:** ![Voss\_Sasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/voss_sasen/32/390231_2.png) [@Voss\_Sasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Voss_Sasen)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/115 "2026-08-25T21:20:05Z")

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Biggest thing is PVE Fits are not suited for PVP so as a mission runner accept you are content for Pvpers. Your role is to avoid them do not engage and or make it easy for them to Gank you.

PVP = player versus player it doesn’t mean its consensual. Even in Null Sec unless your baiting the ratter will evade and not engage.

Because Null and Low Sec Suck over the years Empire Space has morphed and CCP has allowed it. There whole marketing is based on PVP, creating events to lure you into a ISK trap to become Content.

Is what it is and the only way to change it is with your feet you choose if you can avoid been content or play something else.

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**Author:** ![Orren\_Grund](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orren_grund/32/378694_2.png) [@Orren\_Grund](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orren_Grund)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/116 "2026-08-26T11:59:57Z")

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Blowing up (clarification: attacking) your MTU makes the ganker a “suspect” you can engage. The first reflex of someone who hasn’t seen it before may well be to target the Catalyst and shoot at it. Congratulations, you’re now engaged in consensual PvP!

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/117 "2026-08-26T13:15:47Z")

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PvE Everything includes players, you have to be prepared for everything.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/118 "2026-08-26T15:24:30Z")

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> [@Orren\_Grund](#):
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> Blowing up

Just for clarity: attacking (performing hostile action on) MTU turns you into a suspect, no need to actually blow it up (and I think no need for it to be a weapon system activation either so can be a scram or energy warfare and/or whatever that works on them). 🤔

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**Author:** ![Bill-Ni\_PIGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bill-ni_piguy/32/508878_2.png) [@Bill-Ni\_PIGuy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bill-Ni_PIGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2026, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/119 "2026-09-03T22:59:11Z")

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Brother, new players, HiSec mission runners, and Miners have been posting this exact topic for over 20 years. “Why is it that in a game where 85% of the systems in game are free-for-all PvP zones, do certain people get their kicks by coming into your 15% and ruining your game experience?” You could go live in the new 1.0 sec systems where there’s no non-consensual PvP allowed, but the payouts are so low that it’s not worth the cost of ammo.

The short answer, because they are bad at actual PvP. You’ve already heard all of their awesome talking points: “You’re never safe in Eve”, “Get better at the game”, “Don’t fly what you can’t afford to loose”, “You consented to PvP when you undocked”, etc.

The funny thing is, most of the people posting that crap don’t have a dozen Low, WH, or Nullsec kills to their name. Why? Because they can’t kill an actual PvP pilot in a ship fit for PvP. What they can do is fly into a mission and gank a solo player who is PvE fit and preoccupied with the mission they are running or warp into a group of Mining ships designed for mining not combat. They pretend they have “skill”, but how much “skill” does it take to hop on your 18 alt accounts, warp to a target, and shoot? Why not go on a LowSec roam? Why not jump into a WH? Because, despite what they say here, they don’t want a fight, they don’t want “gameplay” they just want a kill mail and to possibly hear you cry about it in local.

My advice, forget about flying any of those big, cool, blinged out ships in HiSec. Go get a Drake, Gila, or VNI, and fit it with tech 2 modules. If your goal is to fly the big shiney ships, find yourself a corp in a big NullSec alliance. Settle down in a region where they roll wormholes as soon as they pop up, have 24/7 intel channels, and reaction fleets of Carriers and Dreds on standby to come bail you out on the off chance that you were watching Netflix and got jumped on. You’re actually safer to fly what you want, have a good time, and make more ISK there.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/120 "2026-09-04T01:44:42Z")

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I like bling…

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2026, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/121 "2026-09-04T02:01:46Z")

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> [@Bill-Ni\_PIGuy](#):
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> Because they can’t kill an actual PvP pilot in a ship fit for PvP. What they can do is fly into a mission and gank a solo player who is PvE fit and preoccupied with the mission they are running or warp into a group of Mining ships designed for mining not combat. They pretend they have “skill”, but how much “skill” does it take to hop on your 18 alt accounts, warp to a target, and shoot?

You should give ganking a try, it’s not as easy as you make it out to be. It takes genuine skill to pull an effective gank off.

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