# Gankers During High-Sec PVE missions?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833>\
**Category:** Missions\
**Created:** [June 24, 2026, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833 "2026-06-24T08:50:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/142 "2026-10-14T17:10:19Z")

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Don’t run abyssals one jump out of Jita and this will be less likely to happen.

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/143 "2026-10-14T17:12:29Z")

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No!

Bullying and griefing is preventing newbros from participating in piracy because -some- people want to undock risk free.

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**Author:** ![Coffe\_s\_Babe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coffe_s_babe/32/508558_2.png) [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coffe_s_Babe)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/144 "2026-10-14T17:17:05Z")

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i didnt say anything about abyssal space, because i understand the mechanics and it’s a risk im willing to take.

I only mentioned mission ( level 3 , especially )

So please don’t add random things into discussion.

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**Author:** ![Spring\_Sky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spring_sky/32/447439_2.png) [@Spring\_Sky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spring_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/145 "2026-10-14T17:17:50Z")

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Apparently not if your whining about ratting in highsec

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/146 "2026-10-14T18:15:41Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> cannot set ~~standings~~ to red

What the `Guidance Counsellor` meant to write is: “safeties”. 🤔

😊

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/147 "2026-10-14T20:37:12Z")

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Ty yes i meant safeties. Problem being a USIA member standings on the brain

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**Author:** ![Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loki_yamaguchi/32/495255_2.png) [@Loki\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loki_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/148 "2026-10-16T07:03:08Z")

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> [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](#):
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> When i want to undock in highsec, i shouldnt worry myself with things like “who is in local?

![bait-tom-hardy-2916471360](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/0/0/400103fe520bd496106784a2f4491240bddc67b1.gif)

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**Author:** ![Udisnme](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/udisnme/32/490766_2.png) [@Udisnme](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Udisnme)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/149 "2026-10-16T09:56:31Z")

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once again the loser who ruins other peoples gameplay because he;s a losers mocking people who play worse than him…typical loser who thinks he’s the best.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/150 "2026-10-16T10:32:19Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> The next Uta Alt? 🤣

Same ‘there should be no PvP in high sec rhetoric’, but Uta still seems active and has a different style.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/a/3/1a3c4d2761aa0b7b53cc356249bc8f8af8b5a768.jpeg)

@Coffe_s_Babe if you want to fly in a part of space where you don’t have to face risk of PvP you should give Exordium a try!

High security space is not total perfect security space, it merely has high security and does have PvP.

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/151 "2026-10-16T17:04:04Z")

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love the meme

![Star Wars Episode 1: Qui-Gon Jinn & Jar Jar Binks](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/0/6/d068628b1c30ddc4fbf9b1a7077089c467aa4782.webp)

I’d say this one compliments it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_tapioca_terrorist/32/493091_2.png) [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Tapioca_Terrorist)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/152 "2026-10-17T05:31:13Z")

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dont run missions in waters where the sharks swim oi

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/153 "2026-10-17T07:42:19Z")

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> [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](#):
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> Players undock in high sec to do pve content

Yeah, like dropping a giant structure at tranquility when it’s still allowed. Things aren’t that simple. PVP in Eve-Online isn’t just shooting ships. Gankers presence aren’t just about ganking. It is politics.

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**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/154 "2026-10-17T13:16:51Z")

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> [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](#):
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> Accept the fact that some people dont want to play this game for the pvp, just want to get home and open eve for few hours.  
> […]  
> Im tired of being ganked by alpha pilots catalysts. Kill right? It’s a joke. They delete the alpha character and make another. Some people have alpha chars farms so they cycle alpha chars like toilet paper.  
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Two thoughts on your statements:

So you are only ever interacting with NPCs to get blueprints and mine and build everything yourself? Also you don’t plan to sell your loot on a market?  
No PVP would mean almost no interaction with the market. Because you try to sell something over the loss of someone else or you try to undercut someone when buying stuff.

Ganking with fleets of alpha pilots isn’t easily possible or allowed. All those catalysts are omega status. If you are really in doubt, you could measure this…you can set up to get ganked, carefully measure the time it takes to put your ship down, see the applied damage and divide it by the count of the catalysts. Then evaluate against the possible output of an alpha or omega fleet as the DPS on an alpha catalyst is about half of that of an omega one.  
If you really find the wrong DPS count, then i would suggest to report it to FC with your evidence calculation.

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/155 "2026-10-17T13:41:55Z")

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> [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](#):
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> Im tired of being ganked by alpha pilots catalysts.

Alpha characters can’t set safety to red, thus they can’t gank.

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**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-during-high-sec-pve-missions/513833/156 "2026-10-17T16:28:50Z")

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Right, that is also true…it wasn’t absolutely clear to me from the rant where exactly his/her ganking is happening.

If it is in highsec, then the catalysts have to be omega or they can’t activate any weapons since that change was established in 2022.

If it is outside of highsec, then only one active logged in alpha per player is allowed and can activate their weapons. Then you can possibly measure from the ganktime and DPS if it is an alpha or not as described in my last post. And if the whole ganking fleet is alphas, then you might consider reporting it to FC so they can look into it. Can still be a valid ganking by 15 friends using alphas, or a roaming fleet event using alphas which is a common socializing thing, sometimes organized as twitch/discord/youtube events. FC can then sort it out afterwards if needed.

So please @Coffe_s_Babe clarify your issue or if you had a misunderstanding of mechanics.

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