# Gankers failing every day (CODE this time) **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 4, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692 "2022-06-04T21:25:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/81 "2022-06-06T19:58:12Z")
I’ve spent maybe 0.001% of my time in high so obviously I can’t link you a high sec gank. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/82 "2022-06-06T19:58:45Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > I’ve spent maybe 0.001% of my time in high So you don’t know what you are talking about? I’d leave discussions about Highsec balance to people who actually know something about it. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/83 "2022-06-06T20:10:34Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > Well I mean if Destiny is personally attacking you then he see’s you as his equal his rival 😂 so take it as a compliment. No, I literally just _don’t care._ That individual has a clear history of real-life bigotry, so I don’t really see them as anything. They’re _less than human_ to me. My interactions with them, unlike morally well-adjusted EVE players (even those I disagree with), is essentially limited to mocking and making fun of them, like a piece of bad art. There’s a handful of individuals like that on these forums (I call them the “Axis of Misery”), and they all behave similarly, mainly by being bigots, making real-life threats, making criminal accusations, etc. They’re all subhuman, and the forums actually become a much nicer place when they stop posting. > [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > If I compare your kb to destiny its world’s apart in terms of skill so I’ll leave it at that. I think Aiko is a much better PvPer than I am. Literally all I do is spot some fat seal to club and just face-roll across the keyboard while drooling and making “hurr durr” noises. On the other hand, Aiko has to manage both multiple characters _and_ multiple alliance members as an FC, calculate timings with exceptional precision, keep supply lines running smoothly, track the movements of rivals like AGs and loot thieves, and deal with multiple threats at the same time while piloting fragile, DPS-heavy ships. Meanwhile, I sometimes don’t even remember to dock. Like yesterday I accidentally went AFK in a 4B ISK ship and a 3B ISK pod, and when I came back 3 hours later I was still sitting in the same spot near a gate. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/84 "2022-06-06T20:18:24Z")
Had no idea the dude was an fc, you make a fair point. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/85 "2022-06-06T20:34:40Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > They’re _less than human_ to me. And you wish I had high blood pressure too, you are obsessed. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > That individual has a clear history of real-life bigotr Simply untrue. Please link the actual bigotry. And I have never made a single real life threat in this game or any other, never have and never will. But I have noticed that you decided to de-humanise me to justify your high blood pressure comment in some way, way to go tiger, your true stripes are showing. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/86 "2022-06-06T20:53:08Z")
If ganking was easy I wouldn’t now have gained two kill rights from escaping solo gankers in a mere Venture. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/87 "2022-06-06T20:58:57Z")
Look they have already won the argument about it not being easy. Would you like me to go gank someone in high sec? Potentially ruining that persons day. Look It’s also easy to avoid ganks and stay extremely safe in high if you know what you are doing, but the problem is most of the time the people who get ganked are the newer guys. If you do your work and you setup 0 dock bookmarks and insta undock book marks and all that you become almost ungankable but how many new players even know about it? I still see people auto piloting on gates -\_- why? In your instance since they died means they agressed you so I am guessing they shot with their guns before scramming/webbing you? and you kited away buying time for concord? and just the idea of you kiting away even thou you are a new player shows that you already have some good reactions and instinct which a lot of newer players don’t have. O wait a venture so you have the 2 built in warp stab’s I wonder if they used the combat booster that adds scram points. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/88 "2022-06-06T21:12:20Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > In your instance since they died means they agressed you so I am guessing they shot with their guns before scramming/webbing you? They both managed to miss…I may have been in scram range but was obviously outside target range. In a 0.8 system they can’t afford to miss. I think an experienced ganker would have scrammed me and then waited to get closer before firing, or arrived closer in the first place. I don’t know if scramming itself counts as a Concord-able offence…maybe someone can enlighten me on that. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/89 "2022-06-06T21:16:46Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I think an experienced ganker would have scrammed me and then waited to get closer before firing, or arrived closer in the first place. he would have gotten within 3 before even scramming tbh, but you have 2 built in warp core stabs so I think they where afraid of you getting away if the 2nd guy didnt get his scram on you in time. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/90 "2022-06-06T21:22:24Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > he would have gotten within 3 before even scramming tbh I hit warp to station the moment he arrived…its pretty quick with a Venture and I always have Overview set so all I have to do is hit that icon. So I was already moving out of scram range. Hmm…I have a Thrasher and I’m pretty sure the range is more than 3km as I’ve been ratting with it. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/91 "2022-06-06T21:24:46Z")
I was assuming they where blaster ships with void in, which is usually around 3km optimal, if its 2 thrashers with arty then damn nice escape there, if they had auto’s it would be hard to believe they would be missing as the falloff on those things are amazing but the dps would be low from that range. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/92 "2022-06-06T21:33:15Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > most of the time the people who get ganked are the newer guys. That’s a myth, many of the people I gank have been playing longer than me. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/93 "2022-06-06T21:33:17Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > but the problem is most of the time the people who get ganked are the newer guys. Can you actually prove this? Because there’s a certain data point I keep bringing up when people make this claim, and it’s that the average ganker kill has a greater value (_considerably_ more so) than the average null-sec kill, even if we _don’t_ account for null-sec outliers like super-capital and citadel kills. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/94 "2022-06-06T21:42:40Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > the average ganker kill has a greater value Haha, ganking is TOO EASY. Remove CONCORD protection and watch the gankers RUN! ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/95 "2022-06-06T21:42:59Z")
hmm is that still true if you remove all hauling vessels which are meant to have huge amounts in them. I can understand that people who think they are safe would invest more into their ship so that would make sense, especially mission running/ incursion running ships. But then you get people like frat who rat with 10b isk ships but its rare as hell that is true while the normal raters are mostly all t2 fit. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Rancer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jolly_rancer/32/323402_2.png) [@Jolly\_Rancer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jolly_Rancer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/96 "2022-06-06T21:46:16Z")
Why are you saving an obvious representation of the missing link? That freighter pilot was on autopilot through Uedama. It’s natural selection and you’ve interrupted the balance in our world. How will they learn now? Either they evolve their game play (insta-webs, no afk piloting, command ships and fleets etc.,) or they should donate to the Gankers’ plex pits. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/97 "2022-06-06T21:47:18Z")
If they auto pilot through uedama then its only a delay xD ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/98 "2022-06-06T22:27:47Z")
> [@Hazen\_Koraka](#): > > Maybe a Safety fail gank video Nice video. It’s better than the first one. Must be deep fakes though, because carebears keep saying that it’s impossible to survive a gank and if gankers want you dead, you’ll be dead. Clearly someone is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/99 "2022-06-06T23:20:17Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You said ganking is easy, but you can’t do it! > **[Bantam | Warren Buffets | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/101324143/)** > > Warren Buffets (Berkshire Hathaways) lost their Bantam in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by ResonanceOfWar (Universal Fleet Operations) flying solo in a Cormorant. Total Value: 8,624,488.08 ISK There we go, ganked and ganked a ganker while I was at it. Missed out on an easy tornado kill(who was also a ganker) because I didn’t know how to activate the kill right -\_- ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692/100 "2022-06-06T23:22:56Z")
That’s cool, but that’s just one gank. You lost 42 million isk to destroy 8.6 million - so that’s not very impressive. Try to gank ten thousand ships without going bankrupt. Good luck! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-failing-every-day-code-this-time/365692.md?page=6)