# Gankers in highsec still there? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 2, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706 "2018-10-02T18:43:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/62 "2018-10-05T06:20:23Z")
Here’s some interesting data that supports the claims that ganking is not out of hand. What does everyone think? > **[EVEData: Where are players dying?](https://www.evedata.org/killmailStatistics)** > > View over time, the most common sources of distinct characters losing ships You can filter it by character age as well. Take a look at it all and see what kind of trends you can connect the dots on. This is about facts, not feelings people! ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/63 "2018-10-05T07:00:08Z")
Stop using your patriarchal data. We have strong and unsubstantiated feelings that ganking is totally out of hand. Gank victims must be believed at all times. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/64 "2018-10-05T08:39:01Z")
I do believe that you lot are rather scared that ganking is about to be ganked by CCP? ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/65 "2018-10-05T08:42:42Z")
I really don’t think CCP is gonna “gank” ganking. They may do something about bumping but I’m sure it will have minimal effect. I think it was around 2015 when I prepared myself both mentally and meta-wise to inevitable changes to bumping. I do think that a bump timer is harder to implement than what most of the arm-chair devs in here seem to believe. Anyway, the data is interesting and to be honest I think that for the most part everything seems balanced as far as how much is being destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/66 "2018-10-05T09:33:37Z")
Well at this point I might just go and grab some 🍿 and watch what occurs… 🙈🙉🙊 ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/67 "2018-10-05T09:52:51Z")
Yeah I mean CCP is gonna do what they want in the end. Will be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Jana\_Syko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jana_syko/32/100110_2.png) [@Jana\_Syko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jana_Syko)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/68 "2018-10-05T10:51:30Z")
This would be a good thing. Right now bumping is an exploid used by gankers. If bumping works right the ship of the ganker would suffer damage. After hiting something once or twice your ship should basicaly blow up. Right now nothing happend. At least in highsector. When you bump in traffic with your car into something does it get damaged? So - it´s an exploid! ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/69 "2018-10-05T11:04:26Z")
> [@Jana\_Syko](#): > > When you bump in traffic with your car into something does it get damaged? hur durrrrrr bideo gaymm duuurrr ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/70 "2018-10-05T11:35:56Z")
Bumping is not an exploit. Bumping is a game mechanic. ---
**Author:** ![Jana\_Syko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jana_syko/32/100110_2.png) [@Jana\_Syko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jana_Syko)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/71 "2018-10-05T11:44:06Z")
Then it´s a bug cause it is unrealistic ---
**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/72 "2018-10-05T11:58:21Z")
> [@Jana\_Syko](#): > > This would be a good thing. Right now bumping is an exploid used by gankers. If bumping works right the ship of the ganker would suffer damage. After hiting something once or twice your ship should basicaly blow up. Right now nothing happend. We’ve been over this so many times. Jita undock… bump bump bump BOOM? Who goes BOOM? Even miners can accidentally bump each other. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/73 "2018-10-05T12:24:10Z")
🤣 @Australian_Excellence explained it to you as simple as possible and still you don’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/74 "2018-10-05T12:30:58Z")
K dude ---
**Author:** ![Jana\_Syko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jana_syko/32/100110_2.png) [@Jana\_Syko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jana_Syko)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/75 "2018-10-05T12:37:18Z")
Easy. Undock timer -10 seconds should not give you any damage. Otherwise you go boom when you bump. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/76 "2018-10-05T12:58:44Z")
> [@Jana\_Syko](#): > > bumping is an exploid Nope It is not… ---
**Author:** ![Charley\_Varrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charley_varrick/32/134094_2.png) [@Charley\_Varrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charley_Varrick)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/77 "2018-10-05T13:52:25Z")
I said it before and I’ll say it again… Scrams and stabilizers were put in the game for a reason. Bumping is a cheap work around and ship to ship collision should be disabled because there is no other way to fix it that can’t be abused in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Jana\_Syko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jana_syko/32/100110_2.png) [@Jana\_Syko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jana_Syko)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/78 "2018-10-05T15:19:23Z")
Also easy. Make them fly through other ships. No bumping works again ---
**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/79 "2018-10-05T17:44:26Z")
> [@Jana\_Syko](#): > > Also easy. Make them fly through other ships. No bumping works again Allowing two ships to be in the same space leads to divide by zero errors. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/80 "2018-10-05T17:58:40Z")
But if I can fly my frigate through his freighter, surely I should be able to grab some loot on the way through? ---
**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/81 "2018-10-06T07:28:34Z")
> [@Jana\_Syko](#): > > When you bump in traffic with your car into something does it get damaged? > [@Jana\_Syko](#): > > Also easy. Make them fly through other ships. No bumping works again Does your car drive trough other cars in real traffic…? > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > But if I can fly my frigate through his freighter, surely I should be able to grab some loot on the way through? Only if CCP allows me to grab some loot each time I fly my hauler trough a station… 😉 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706.md?page=5)