# Gankers in highsec still there?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 2, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706 "2018-10-02T18:43:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/122 "2019-02-10T18:28:41Z")

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I have always thought that when a third party app, tool, website, or mod is more accurate or superior to the default in-game version, it is clear that the developers are failing. How is it that an unpaid volunteer is doing more effective work? How can CCP continue to be unable to provide accurate financial data about its own in-game economy?

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/123 "2019-02-10T20:47:11Z")

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I have always thought that only an idiot continues to play a game which he holds in such contempt…

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/124 "2019-02-11T02:03:53Z")

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I also thought of this discussion when i read that.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/125 "2019-02-11T02:08:42Z")

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Is it not a case where 3rd party tools use jita pricing because this is what most players use as standard, but the in game tool takes global data into account?

Which is more accurate depends on your individual circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/126 "2019-02-11T08:18:19Z")

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It’s not like they couldn’t make it more accurate. They could easily make it Jita-prices throughout the cluster, but there’s issues with that.

- Using current prices can be gamed, which is ■■■■ for everyone else.
- Who decides that Jita prices should be used, instead of Amarr?
- The current price is based on [some formula over time], which might not be accurate, but prevents bounty from being gamed. Remember when the goons manipulated prices to make hundreds of billions through bounty payouts by shooting “enemy factions” in FW? If not look it up!

It’s not that they can’t. It’s that they shouldn’t.

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**Author:** ![Loota\_Plex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loota_plex/32/311135_2.png) [@Loota\_Plex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loota_Plex)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/127 "2019-02-24T09:37:21Z")

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Yes, all is well now, there are 400 stupid noobs out there bumping and killing freighters .

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**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/128 "2019-02-24T21:52:59Z")

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Stop trying to scare people with false rumors, Jita is one of the safest places in EVE to auto-pilot your freighter.

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**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/129 "2019-02-24T22:32:08Z")

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I wanted to thank you guys for selling me my permit to move my freighter into Jita. It really came in handy! Do yourselves a favor everyone and permit up!

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**Author:** ![Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ghost_o_mo/32/376789_2.png) [@Ghost\_O\_Mo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ghost_O_Mo)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/130 "2019-02-24T23:26:21Z")

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I just went through with my freighter alts… seemed ok to me.

Is burn Jita being held somewhere else this year

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/131 "2019-02-25T14:05:21Z")

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If you are getting bumped and ganked by noobs, what does that say about YOU?

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**Author:** ![Loota\_Plex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loota_plex/32/311135_2.png) [@Loota\_Plex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loota_Plex)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/133 "2019-02-26T19:36:54Z")

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Baited!  
Got em fam.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/134 "2019-05-02T08:00:38Z")

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Lots changed in HS but please stay away…we have enough tears already…your type are never happy.

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**Author:** ![Kayla\_Helsayn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kayla_helsayn/32/142654_2.png) [@Kayla\_Helsayn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kayla_Helsayn)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/135 "2019-06-20T15:37:06Z")

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A permit? No way, better do not buy a subscription

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/136 "2019-06-20T16:57:04Z")

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> [@Kayla\_Helsayn](#):
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> I would like to relax while gaming

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/137 "2019-06-20T16:58:29Z")

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> [@Kayla\_Helsayn](#):
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> A permit? No way, better do not buy a subscription

You will be dearly missed, I assure you. 😐

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/138 "2019-06-24T12:50:27Z")

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But you’ll be saving so much if you buy it for a whole year upfront!

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**Author:** ![Kayla\_Helsayn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kayla_helsayn/32/142654_2.png) [@Kayla\_Helsayn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kayla_Helsayn)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/139 "2019-06-25T05:12:52Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Wardecs, ganking, scamming etc are not against the ToS of Eve, because they’re an integral part of the game, and always have been.

No one talked about wardecs. But as far I know the rock old game engine does just not allow to do any better or prevent scam or ganking (see Concord response time).

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/140 "2019-06-25T07:32:12Z")

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> [@Kayla\_Helsayn](#):
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> prevent scam

How would the game engine affect that?

Do you mean like how its impossible to be scammed in a contract if you use Eyes + Brain?

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/141 "2019-06-25T16:10:17Z")

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> [@Kayla\_Helsayn](#):
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> But as far I know the rock old game engine does just not allow to do any better or prevent scam or ganking (see Concord response time).

Is _that_ why you think this game has those features? Because CCP can’t figure out how to get rid of them? 🧐

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**Author:** ![Praxxus\_Dentor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/praxxus_dentor/32/143525_2.png) [@Praxxus\_Dentor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Praxxus_Dentor)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gankers-in-highsec-still-there/110706/142 "2019-06-25T18:45:27Z")

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The mere fact you were using a Mackinaw in Hi-sec is exactly why you got ganked.

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