# Ganking and PVP: Numbers in perspective **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 30, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-and-pvp-numbers-in-perspective/371852 "2022-07-30T15:48:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 424
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-and-pvp-numbers-in-perspective/371852/424 "2022-12-12T19:50:23Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Did it make me feel like leaving the game ? No. Not in the least. Do keep in mind that your personal, singular experience and choices don’t really translate well to what hundreds of thousands of new players (or old players) experience. You still seem hung up on “the anecdote” as your reality check, while dismissing decades of numbers that detract from your arguments. And your viewpoint seems to have changed quite a bit since you decided to join the gankers: > [@Ganking makes Eve a better place](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/142): > > The problem with your opening post ( which in general I agree with ) is that you have the retrospective hindsight of much knowledge and that’s something that tends to blur how one would oneself have responded to being ganked early on in Eve. Most people joining Eve have never heard of ganking. They’re just here to check it all out…see what this ‘space game’ is all about. Some argue that getting blown to bits by a horde of 15 gankers shows them. I disagree. It’s akin to playing Half Life and mee… Interesting how much “retrospective hindsight” you’ve been applying to your view of EVE lately. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-and-pvp-numbers-in-perspective/371852)._