# Ganking and PVP: Numbers in perspective

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**Created:** [July 30, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-and-pvp-numbers-in-perspective/371852 "2022-07-30T15:48:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-and-pvp-numbers-in-perspective/371852/522 "2022-12-15T22:49:55Z")

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> [@Bladewise](#):
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> If it costs $800 a month for a ganking setup that won’t pay for itself then ganking will cease to exist.

Seriously? No profit? Can’t pay for itself?

Well, let’s take a look at the last 24 hours or so:

> **[Alura Jenson | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/96133567/)**
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> Alura Jenson: 126 ships destroyed and 139 ships lost.

Looks pretty profitable, not a very “complicated setup”.

> **[Occator | McDoogle DeVine | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/105401852/)**
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> McDoogle DeVine (Stellar Fleets) lost their Occator in Suroken (The Citadel). Final Blow by Carl Litchfield (New Order Mining Authority) flying in a Tornado. Total Value: 3,449,114,242.56 ISK

Hmm, decent little profit here, straightforward easy gank.

> **[Occator | Mother Dragon | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/105403304/)**
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> Mother Dragon (Lion's Leigon) lost their Occator in Suroken (The Citadel). Final Blow by Wiliam Aideron (Dolphin Noises) flying in a Tornado. Total Value: 2,729,677,749.44 ISK

And gosh, just an hour later and they can do it again!

> **[Impel | Avi Visteen | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/105398488/)**
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> Avi Visteen (Exit-Strategy) lost their Impel in Anttiri (The Citadel). Final Blow by Lars Carlsen (New Order Mining Authority) flying in a Tornado. Total Value: 4,067,083,982.69 ISK

Hey they’re on a roll!

> **[Tayra | Caine 607 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/105395435/)**
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> Caine 607 (Caldari Provisions) lost their Tayra in Gheth (Devoid). Final Blow by Snoop (Paper Dragons) flying in a Caracal. Total Value: 1,393,140,107.10 ISK

Decent drop for pretty cheap.

> **[Bestower | LightTrader | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/105386077/)**
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> LightTrader (Graystone Enterprises) lost their Bestower in Sivala (The Citadel) Total Value: 1,032,167,616.06 ISK

I’d call that a decent profit.

> **[Bustard | Big McHuge | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/105384989/)**
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> Big McHuge (Goosefleet) lost their Bustard in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by Alexandrina lex (Lexan's) flying in a Tornado. Total Value: 3,178,300,517.31 ISK

Not bad, not bad at all…

And that’s not even half of it. So for the “complicated setup” of 3-5 Tornadoes and a loot-scooper, gankers are raking in billions in just a few hours. OMG, the _feels_ I have for these poor, desperate starving gankers!

> [@Bladewise](#):
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> Do you expect miners to pay all their subs with cash too?

Mostly, I expect people to be self-sufficient. And honestly, not impressed with the crying gankers sobbing their hearts out because they can’t steal their Plexed accounts in a few hours from someone else who put in the real effort.

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