# Ganking cancer

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 3, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426 "2025-06-03T08:49:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/271 "2025-06-05T15:03:26Z")

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> [@Akkar\_Kardashev](#):
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> Pretending you have the Devs’ ears is not edgy or cool, it’s lame.
> 
> You’re lame.

You’re the one with a hidden profile.. 😏

You call Capsuleers that can play politics lame. Continue pressing your F1.

Or maybe I’ll just support the Gankers. I can do that.  
We need more Gankers. Miners don’t want a solution. They just cry.. The idea of suspect timer when safety is disabled is stupid.. 😁

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**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/272 "2025-06-05T15:04:02Z")

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> [@T\_Elliot](#):
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> drastically different

And we all know the difference.

My point is still valid.

> [@Glenduil](#):
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> outdated tank info

Link to a newer version then…

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/273 "2025-06-05T15:05:13Z")

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Why? I’m not going to do the work for the gankers. They can write up a new one if they want.

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**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/274 "2025-06-05T15:08:29Z")

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> [@Swing\_Vote1](#):
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> And we all know the difference.
> 
> My point is still valid.

If we all know the difference, I don’t see how the point can be valid.

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**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/276 "2025-06-05T15:11:34Z")

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> [@T\_Elliot](#):
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> How have I misrepresented your point of view?

You postulated a number of scenarios made up in your head while conveniently ignoring the one I specifically mentioned. You also reframed the scope of the discussion from point encounter mechanics to a broad campaign of anti-ganking so that you could (I guess?) offer a bragadocious “solution” (whatever strokes your ego, man. I don’t judge).

> [@T\_Elliot](#):
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> You complain that gankers always have the initiative

In **any given encounter**. I don’t believe you really are that obtuse, but just in case, I’ll use small words: In gunfight, ganker get to shoot first. That bad.

> [@T\_Elliot](#):
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> If there are easy answers to problems, they are not much of a problem.

> For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.  
> – H. L. Mencken

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**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/277 "2025-06-05T15:24:01Z")

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> [@March\_rabbit](#):
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> I immediately foresee some issues.

👍 I appreciate the straightforward feedback, and I agree, there would be issues to address with what I suggested. I don’t think they’re insurmountable, though. @Gerard_Amatin had a good response above so I’ll just +1 what he already said.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/278 "2025-06-05T15:24:39Z")

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Sorry mate. miners don’t want your idea of suspect timer when safety is disabled. You can’t expect any help from them.

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**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/279 "2025-06-05T15:25:11Z")

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Okay?

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/280 "2025-06-05T15:27:31Z")

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You can embrace the other side and just Gank Miners. They don’t have any unity to defend Highsec.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/281 "2025-06-05T15:33:55Z")

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Those of you who advocate for red safety in high-sec should bear in-mind that this ultimately limits the type of game play experience you can have. You could have a choice of red safety (only ganking ships) -or- something more comprehensive around a yellow safety.

I would’ve thought the idea of stealing, ransoming, hijacking, smuggling or otherwise committing various crimes (disrupting missions, mining, etc.) would have greater appeal than simply sitting around all day waiting for that 1:100 “blinged out” ship that you might be able to gank.

To be clear, I’m not advocating for the end of ganking to replace it with nothing. It would much rather see a wide and comprehensive list of activities that would either augment or replace it.

Currently there’s little if any incentives to be a “white knight”/escort and bounty-hunting or low-level mercenary work is practically non-existent.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/282 "2025-06-05T15:42:47Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> Currently there’s little if any incentives to be a “white knight”

And what’s the incentive of becoming an SG’s other that padding their killboards?

> **[Safety. | Alliance](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99010569/kills/)**
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> Safety.: 151,968 ships destroyed and 61,191 ships lost.

It’s not a good investment. All those efforts is just for HS PVP content. They need PVE alts to earn something but I’m hoping that there are no RMT going on.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/283 "2025-06-05T15:59:57Z")

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> [@Swing\_Vote1](#):
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> All miners must submit to our most gracious Holy Princess, [Aiko Danuja], peace be upon Her (PbuH).  
> Remember: your mining is her business.  
> Agents are always standing by.  
> To inquire about BLUE packages for your mining guild, mail AGBee 001.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/4/94b57698e531d485a0d270ce8bc3688cc177e759.jpeg "J Jonah Jameson Laugh - Spiderman") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA)

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/284 "2025-06-05T16:05:59Z")

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> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> And what’s the incentive of becoming an SG’s other that padding their killboards?

What’s an SG?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/285 "2025-06-05T16:11:49Z")

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Suicide Ganker I believe

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/286 "2025-06-05T16:12:55Z")

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I have a suspicion that the very last photon of energy in the entire universe, in 10^75 years, when all the black holes have long ago evaporated, will be used by someone whining about ganking.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/287 "2025-06-05T16:27:53Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Suicide Ganker I believe

A typo, A is right next to S

**Try again**

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/288 "2025-06-05T16:59:20Z")

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That makes more sense. The context was all wrong.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/289 "2025-06-05T17:01:10Z")

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/290 "2025-06-05T17:09:41Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> Jumping into (weird) HS space during a LS fight already can be confusing, because if you have just podded someone in LS and then jump to HS you get your ship CONCORDED for what you did in LS, I think.

Yes, and yes.  
You get CONCORDed.  
People do this. 😆

I remember a moment when we were roaming and had a fight on a gate to HS. And one of us jumped the system to evade lossmail… and got CONCORDed. And only then we noticed that we are on the HS border. 😆

Not telling the change related to safeties and suspect status is bad or not possible. We will see.

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**Author:** ![DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichelle_geniale/32/450875_2.png) [@DeMichelle\_Geniale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichelle_Geniale)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/291 "2025-06-05T17:24:41Z")

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> [@Swing\_Vote1](#):
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> It’s wild that a game supposedly built on risk vs. reward still lets low-effort players rack up killmails in high sec with all the danger of a _padded room_

I wouldn’t say that about Ganking because I consider it Piracy and what’s a space game without piracy?

I would say it about Gate Camping though.

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