# Ganking cancer **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 3, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426 "2025-06-03T08:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/292 "2025-06-05T17:46:13Z")
I tried to like your answer. * * * ![1000019104](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/2/5/7258a6c9ec48fb56c0c75172053c3de2be0d0248.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Molea\_Enjoyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/molea_enjoyer/32/449451_2.png) [@Molea\_Enjoyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Molea_Enjoyer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/293 "2025-06-05T18:05:17Z")
You can always ask for reimbursement if you get ganked ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/294 "2025-06-05T19:41:17Z")
> [@Hatch\_Nasty](#): > > In **any given encounter**. I don’t believe you really are that obtuse, but just in case, I’ll use small words: In gunfight, ganker get to shoot first. That bad. You missed my point entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/295 "2025-06-05T20:18:22Z")
> [@Swing\_Vote1](#): > > I tried to like your answer. Use your likes wisely. Failure to like **Zaera’s** posts will result in a **1 billion ISK** fine and confiscation of your toys ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/296 "2025-06-05T21:10:02Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > What’s an SG? > **[Sausage gravy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sausage_gravy)** > > Sausage gravy is a traditional Southern breakfast dish in the United States. After loose pork sausage is cooked in a pan and removed, a roux is formed by browning flour in the residual fat. Milk and seasonings, such as salt and pepper, are added to create a moderately thick gravy, to which the cooked sausage is added. Occasionally, ingredients such as cayenne pepper or a spicy sausage are used to make a spicier gravy. > Sausage gravy is traditionally served as part of the dish biscuits and gravy ... ---
**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/297 "2025-06-05T21:17:37Z")
Ditto. Though I think you did it intentionally. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/298 "2025-06-05T23:33:39Z")
Sausage gravy… mmmmm. ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/299 "2025-06-05T23:59:56Z")
Biscuits. Plop. Where’s the ■■■■■■■ mash? Mash with sausages and gravy. Not your strange flat dumplings. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/300 "2025-06-06T00:13:55Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > I like the idea that someone with safeties red is always suspect in HS. While a good idea, how long does it take to switch from green to red? 🫤 ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/301 "2025-06-06T00:22:45Z")
Suspect flag for doing a filament. ■■■■■■■ insane. Get to bed and have a lie down. ---
**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/302 "2025-06-06T00:53:22Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > While a good idea, how long does it take to switch from green to red? I would say, 10-30s to go to or from red, maybe depending on system security. Just enough to prevent flip-and-fire. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/303 "2025-06-06T00:55:17Z")
It only takes me one click to switch? 0 seconds. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/304 "2025-06-06T02:58:32Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > It only takes me one click to switch? As I said above: > [@Hatch\_Nasty](#): > > …disabling safeties (red) in hisec should incur a persistent suspect flag. **Add a timer to enable or disable safeties (10-30s)**, and you now have meaningful counterplay… **Keyword:** Add ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/305 "2025-06-06T03:11:53Z")
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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/306 "2025-06-06T03:28:43Z")
Which? The Topic that Sausage Gravy can be compared to STD’s/HIV/AIDS or the suspect timer while on red safety? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/307 "2025-06-06T05:52:41Z")
You’re right, if red safeties incur a suspect status it should obviously also require a small delay before you can switch. I’d say 5 - 10 seconds is plenty to react for others around the ship, if they’re paying attention. Immediately the ship goes suspect, then after the delay their safeties are off. ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Krieger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jt_krieger/32/457494_2.png) [@JT\_Krieger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JT_Krieger)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 6:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/308 "2025-06-06T06:27:46Z")
Three clicks: Select Safety \> Disable Safety \> Confirm Multiply that across your whole ganker squad and you have your delay. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/309 "2025-06-06T06:38:49Z")
> [@Hatch\_Nasty](#): > > At least that way, if a fleet of catalysts shows up in my mission site, I’m free to open fire _before_ they pull the trigger, and I won’t lose my ship to CONCORD for preemptive self-defense. These gank fleets that hunts mission runners, abyss runners or anomaly runners always, but really always, have at least one pilot who has killright that you can activate and start shooting first. It really doesn’t change that much for anything but station camping. Gankers used to work with -10 before there was tether and still got their kills, this would be no different. However, station camping would be impossible to do. And while station ganking is stupid and illogical, you can’t really remove that without giving gankers different way to catch their targets. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/310 "2025-06-06T11:01:21Z")
How does tethering affect PvP and standings? I’ve tried to search that question, but I haven’t found anything worthwhile on it. ---
**Author:** ![JT\_Krieger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jt_krieger/32/457494_2.png) [@JT\_Krieger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JT_Krieger)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/311 "2025-06-06T11:25:12Z")
If you have an active weapons timer or insufficient sec status you cannot tether. > **[Changes to Security Status & Abyssal Filaments | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/changes-to-security-status-and-abyssal-filaments)** > > New changes to outlaw behavior in high security space & activation of Abyssal filaments [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/207568639-Upwell-Structure-Ship-Tethering](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/207568639-Upwell-Structure-Ship-Tethering) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426.md?page=16)