# Ganking cancer **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 3, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426 "2025-06-03T08:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Duality107](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duality107/32/463322_2.png) [@Duality107](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duality107)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/375 "2025-06-07T05:38:39Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You can still try a wormhole… While true, that’s kind of missing the point of what I said. A high-sec player is _encouraged_ to either leave high-sec or leave the game. If they’re the PvP-averse type, it’ll likely be the later option. It’s sad, because I can compare what looking for a high-sec focused corp to fly with is like now vs. 4 years ago, vs. 10-15 years ago is like. The further back you go, the more lively things were and more “start-up” corps you could find. Can obviously blame some of that decline on other changes, such as economy. But some of the sharper decline in the last few years in particular probably has at least some relation to the increased popularity of ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/376 "2025-06-07T05:45:55Z")
> [@Duality107](#): > > A high-sec player is _encouraged_ to either leave high-sec or leave the game. Yes, I mean, isn’t it obvious that Highsec is a tutorial and you are supposed to graduate from Highsec and move on to something more interesting than Veldspar and Level 4 missions? I mean, what do you plan to do in Highsec?? ---
**Author:** ![Duality107](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duality107/32/463322_2.png) [@Duality107](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duality107)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/377 "2025-06-07T05:59:19Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Yes, I mean, isn’t it obvious that Highsec is a tutorial and you are supposed to graduate from Highsec and move on to something more interesting than Veldspar and Level 4 missions? I mean, what do you plan to do in Highsec?? That’s a bit of a disingenuous statement. These days it seems like there’s quite a bit more to do than just mine or L4s while based in high-sec. Homefronts, Incursions and Abyssals come to mind on the PvE side of things. Can’t speak for mining or the indy side of things much, as I’ve never enjoyed that style of gameplay, personally. I’ve never really viewed high-sec as purely a tutorial area, so much as a mostly-safe zone, with low being a PvP zone and null being a PvP zone which players can attempt to take and control. EVE is a sandbox after all, not a game of linear progression. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/378 "2025-06-07T06:00:32Z")
> [@Duality107](#): > > Homefronts, Incursions and Abyssals come to mind All things you SHOULD be doing outside of Highsec… …or preferably, not at all. ---
**Author:** ![Duality107](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duality107/32/463322_2.png) [@Duality107](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duality107)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/379 "2025-06-07T06:01:48Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > All things you SHOULD be doing outside of Highsec… > > …or preferably, not at all. According to who? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/380 "2025-06-07T06:02:15Z")
According to me, Princess Aiko Danuja, First of Her Name. ---
**Author:** ![Duality107](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duality107/32/463322_2.png) [@Duality107](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duality107)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/381 "2025-06-07T06:03:48Z")
A bit pretentious for me, but I guess roleplaying _is_ something else people can do in high-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/382 "2025-06-07T06:04:12Z")
Indeed. I hear many roleplay as bots. ---
**Author:** ![Duality107](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duality107/32/463322_2.png) [@Duality107](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duality107)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/383 "2025-06-07T06:07:09Z")
Some bots fly mining ships, some bots fly marauders and some bots fly catalysts. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/384 "2025-06-07T06:07:20Z")
I’ve noticed! ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/385 "2025-06-07T06:25:10Z")
CCP is looking to address FW awox’ing (“ganking for low-sec”), which may ultimately come in the form of standings changes (from @CCP_Okami on EVE Discord): > [@](#): > > There have been a ton of conversations going on about the state of Awoxing in FW. I just want you all to know we’re hearing you and having internal discussions about what we can do here. I think the “right” fix will be a bigger systemic rework of things like Standings, but hopefully we can make a few smaller short term tweaks that can offer a bit of a bandaid solution for the interim. More to come once we make some decisions here, just wanted to let you know we’re aware and working on it. I’m not entirely sure this falls under “ganking”, but it’s long overdue… ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/386 "2025-06-07T06:40:38Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > I’m not entirely sure this falls under “ganking” I would say that it 100% falls under the same lack of character gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/387 "2025-06-07T07:26:46Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Okay… I will agree that you should be able to dock in your own citadel. Only because I would LOVE for Concord to come beat down your front door by blowing up your Home! > > Come on… do you really think Concord would be so pathetic that they’d just leave? Concord is great at giving us some fireworks to watch! Also this makes no sense. If I didn’t commit a crime then CONCORD is not pursuing me. If I did, I can’t warp or dock until my ship is destroyed anyway. And once I am in capsule I can dock anywhere in highsec even in Jita. Laughable. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/388 "2025-06-07T07:31:16Z")
It’s an abstraction. It represents, “The criminal gets away!” That’s the game. ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/389 "2025-06-07T07:35:59Z")
The risk vs reward leaning strongly towards risk is the reason why man gankers in highsec can easily repair security status. Until when haulers lean more towards cargo value based on eHP than gankers will always be able to repair security status. I do see why faction warfare holds the future of highsec ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/390 "2025-06-07T09:01:38Z")
> [@Duality107](#): > > then leave EVE all together. Or you can buy a **Mining Permit** ![cheeky hat](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/8/5/e8510d4d32a82e54bfaab67c8f06d07d810616e7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/391 "2025-06-07T09:53:59Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > “The criminal gets away!” Not if Edencom is the one pursuing you. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/392 "2025-06-07T10:03:57Z")
> [@Felix\_Frostpacker](#): > > future of highsec Future of HS PVP is acquiring a suspect timer when the button is turn to red.. 😋 👺 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/393 "2025-06-07T10:31:23Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > Not if Edencom is the one pursuing you. The (morally superior) Hero always gets their (criminal) woman is a lie, social conditioning brain washing. In reality the criminal always wins . ![smoking 2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/c/1/0c1efbd16e907eaad4ffd696490951a7f1d893d5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/394 "2025-06-07T10:35:50Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > criminal always wins . [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/8/4/884b81cf9b48f4d7a0a38f23ab4a38f053eab2da.jpeg "Alien Ant Farm - Smooth Criminal (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDl9ZMfj6aE) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426.md?page=20)