# Ganking cancer

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 3, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426 "2025-06-03T08:49:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/43 "2025-06-03T10:49:08Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> What were these nerfs you speak of? Pretty sure various ganking ships and short-range ammo getting buffed along with the ease of multiboxing did the exact opposite?

Oh this again. How many times will you repeat this nonsense and rhethorical question that you don’t want to get answered anyway because it has been answered already multiple times by multiple peoples.

I am talking about alpha gaking and docking restriction. Some percent of ammo here and there, up or down have no impact on ganking. This had major impact and the docking access was argumented exactly the same as in this OP - ganking has no consequences.

But it is never enough. You carebears are never going to be happy until ganking is not possible at all or it still is, but nobody does it.

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**Author:** ![filos\_off](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filos_off/32/373501_2.png) [@filos\_off](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/filos_off)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/44 "2025-06-03T10:49:23Z")

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Ok, something i didnt know. So it’s profitable for CCP, kind of

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/45 "2025-06-03T10:51:21Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> I am talking about alpha gaking and docking restriction.

Yeah, because it was abused to no end. Everyone and their dog were signing up throwaway Alpha accounts to gank without consequence.

This wasn’t a nerf - it closed an exploit.

The resistance clawback in Legion was a ganking nerf. See the difference?

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/46 "2025-06-03T10:54:40Z")

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> [@filos\_off](#):
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> Man are you a ganker multiboxer? Because I don’t see another reason to advocate ganking with such energy

🤣 I wrote one short post. And the exact moment I sent it, you insta replied along with one other carebear. Now who is spending so much energy here?

For your info. Yes I am ganker. Yes I do multibox. But not because I want to, simply because I have to. CCP nerfed ganking so much that nobody new wants to do it. Alphas can’t gank so we can’t recruit new players anymore. And our targets multibox too.

So if you can’t beat them, join them. I now multibox too. But I hate multiboxing and if you follow my posts on forum you would know I am advocating agaist it.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/47 "2025-06-03T10:56:35Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> So if you can’t beat them, join them. I now multibox too. But I hate multiboxing and if you follow my posts on forum you would know I am advocating agaist it.

I’ve been an advocate for **expanding** the type of criminal activity that one can engage in. Ganking should really be the last resort - not the first.

No one likes multiboxing (well, most players). It’s a necessary evil that most of us have been reluctantly forced into…

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/48 "2025-06-03T10:59:57Z")

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> [@filos\_off](#):
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> Its not a secret, there are tools to operate multiple characters simultaneously

If you look at the damage from he different attackers on those KM’s you’ll notice that the damage tapers off quite substantially, some of that can certainly be skill related but not THAT much. If it’s one person using a form of “tool to operate multiple characters” then that would not be the case, it would be pretty much the same for all of them (minus the potentially skill differences).

> [@filos\_off](#):
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> I somehow can understand ganking for profit.

Here’s the thing. As the Gila jumps back into K space they do not have the time to check it for cargo or fitting value, because he’s about to warp off. They simply hope/assume it’s going to be a blinged out “povertila” or better and/or filled with loot from several runs (as most people do) and run the large numbers where MOST people will run those low EHP blingy fits, but sometimes they don’t. Cherry picking the ones where they didn’t make profit is not helping your point.

Those kills were 2 and 4 jumps from Jita in 0.6 systems. The most obvious, lazy, clueless and dangerous systems for people to do Abyssals in. They got what they deserve.

> [@filos\_off](#):
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> you have to eliminate this whole thing with buying security status.

I agree with you there. It should not be that easy.

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**Author:** ![filos\_off](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filos_off/32/373501_2.png) [@filos\_off](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/filos_off)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/50 "2025-06-03T11:06:15Z")

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So you hate multiboxing, but you multibox. Cant you see some controversy? What is it, a shyzophreny or something?

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**Author:** ![filos\_off](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filos_off/32/373501_2.png) [@filos\_off](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/filos_off)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/52 "2025-06-03T11:07:57Z")

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Leave? and who are you exactly to tell me what to do?

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**Author:** ![Molea\_Enjoyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/molea_enjoyer/32/449451_2.png) [@Molea\_Enjoyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Molea_Enjoyer)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/53 "2025-06-03T11:09:28Z")

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when is @CCP_Swift going to address the Ganking Problem?

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**Author:** ![filos\_off](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filos_off/32/373501_2.png) [@filos\_off](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/filos_off)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/54 "2025-06-03T11:09:58Z")

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If you can’t argue by facts, you can always put other’s attention to grammar

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/55 "2025-06-03T11:12:15Z")

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> [@filos\_off](#):
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> If you can’t argue by facts, you can always put other’s attention to grammar

You are talking to the wrong person I wasn’t mentioning your grammar, just replied to a post. Maybe try to pay attention and keep your facts straight? 🤔

😉

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**Author:** ![filos\_off](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filos_off/32/373501_2.png) [@filos\_off](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/filos_off)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/56 "2025-06-03T11:13:06Z")

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Anyway…

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/57 "2025-06-03T11:13:25Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> Yeah, because it was abused to no end. Everyone and their dog were signing up throwaway Alpha accounts to gank without consequence.

Who did that? When alpha ganking was possible every week there would be a thread about “oh these gankers are abusing alphas and multiboxing them!”. Never it was proven. Most of the times it was in fact disproven immediately simply because there were proofs in screenshots or video that the clones must be omega (like color of UI for example). And none of the multibox fleets disappeared after the nerf. How strange… that was the goal right so wtf?

I haven’t heard of anyone who would be spining a new account everytime his account went to -10. There was no need to because tether was still a thing. And CCP removed tether after alpha ganking nerfs.

Without multiboxing, there was no abuse. And if someone was truly multiboxing those alphas, then no matter what he did with that, be it ganking or mining ore in highsec, he was breaking rules and should have been banned. Same as botting. If you reported such player and he didn’t get banned, guess he wasn’t abusing alpha multibox.

Not much you can do with 1 alpha ganker. However, when it was possible we had much more actual players to play with because these bored nullsec players or even some highsec supporters could spin a new incognito account and help us when they had nothing else to do, without committing PLEX into it. As they never wanted to do it fulltime. Likewise we had easier time recruiting new players because they could immediatelly join us. If you don’t know, 99% new players thinks this is free2play game and are playing as alphas as long as possible (then their either sub if they found some goal in game or quit). Now this is not possible and this is the biggest consequence of alpha ganking nerf and forces us even more into multiboxing.

BTW. I used to gank as alpha. After they prevented that, they forced me to sub. Now I have 6 omega accounts and doing 6 times more “damage” than before. And I try harder because I need to get enough ISK to be able to sustain this gameplay longterm, whereas before I was just chilling in Jita while doing other things on my computer. Now I play EVE fulltime basically.

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/58 "2025-06-03T11:15:58Z")

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> [@filos\_off](#):
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> I imaging being this noob buying gila or miner, spending their last isks on a ship, fitting it with T2 or even meta 4, just to be killed for fun in high sec. I’m pretty sure, that many newcomers ragequit after such encounter.

Exactly this happened to me back in 2010. Bought me a Myrmidon, haven’t had ISK for rigs. Used T1/meta stuff from corporation hangar to fit this ship. No rigs, triple tank and mixed guns. Flew it like a pro!  
And was asked to test tank of another player… I believe it was some T2 ctuiser.

Scratched my ISK, received basic standard insurance and barely bought new Myrmidon.

Still I’m here remembering that time with some nostalgia…

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**Author:** ![filos\_off](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filos_off/32/373501_2.png) [@filos\_off](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/filos_off)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/60 "2025-06-03T11:18:21Z")

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I lost Golem like 10 years ago, but I lost it to REAL gang of people. Now 2 toxics with 10 tornados can put it down, and without any consequencies

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/61 "2025-06-03T11:18:34Z")

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Actually given this thread and your nonstop activity in it. Maybe you should have.

I would start by uninstalling EVE, It is clearly not for you. If you could also leave forums, that would be nice, but I know your type. You gonna spam antiganking threads for year or more and try to destroy this game.

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**Author:** ![filos\_off](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filos_off/32/373501_2.png) [@filos\_off](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/filos_off)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/62 "2025-06-03T11:19:49Z")

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As i have sayed before, you can keep your thoughts about installing/uninstalling game to yourself, I got your point

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**Author:** ![filos\_off](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/filos_off/32/373501_2.png) [@filos\_off](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/filos_off)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/63 "2025-06-03T11:23:26Z")

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Yes, you know my type, yes. Just calm down man. Just chill out and put the gun down

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**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/65 "2025-06-03T11:42:12Z")

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you must be funny at parties…oh wait

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/66 "2025-06-03T11:42:39Z")

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Cool support alt bro

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