# Ganking cancer **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 3, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426 "2025-06-03T08:49:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/129 "2025-06-03T15:28:51Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > And what’s this nonsense about ‘profit’ ? Shooting people just for the fun of it has been part of EVE since it began. That is classic. Half of the anti-PvP crowd hates the idea of gankers having any profit from their ganks and keeps suggesting a ways how to make profit ganking impossible or non profitable anymore. The other half hates the idea that gankers shoots something that is not profitable. In reality, they all can’t accept any kind of non-consensual PvP (and they never give consent in first place), they are just not honest about that. It is just excuse, and bad one. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/130 "2025-06-03T15:29:31Z")
The only way to avoid getting ganked in high sec is to treat it like low sec or dont undock ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/132 "2025-06-03T15:31:34Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > You have never been to low sec it seems. I have chars with _nothing but_ lowsec kills. Gloria has only around 90 of my 1500 kills in all my chars. My best chars have never posted here and probably never will as I don’t want to sully them. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/133 "2025-06-03T15:32:02Z")
Then why do you think there is difference in how to fly in low sec and high sec if you dont want to get ganked? ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/134 "2025-06-03T15:36:34Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > one way to avoid getting ganked in high sec D-SCAN? There is still no Covert Combat probes except if CCP provides one. 🤫 ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/135 "2025-06-03T15:40:23Z")
The combat probes are technically already covert. Assume by the time you see them on d-scan they have your position ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/136 "2025-06-03T15:40:28Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > Then why do you think there is difference in how to fly in low sec and high sec if you dont want to get ganked? The difference is massive. I will give you a hint. Lowsec “gankers” attacks anything that comes to their gate and if they are well set up, and nowadays all these pipes are well set up, the only counterplay to not get killed is to use ship capable of warping with cloak. Anything else dies. In highsec they need to scan you first to know if it is worth it. And that means you made first mistake of flying something worth to gank, and second that you got scanned - which means your align is over 2 seconds or you don’t have cloak or you didn’t use it and that you didn’t notice the fact of being scanned. And then you need to make third to actually continue your destination and jump to the pipe system from the gate they expect you to. And don’t get me started about difference of mining in low and high. Have you ever tried to solo mine in lowsec in retriever? Or do PVE? You basically need to dock any time someone appears in local regardless how harmless they look like. If you don’t next thing you see is a Curse or Arazunext to you holding you for 3+ multibox ships. So they all get their juicy killmark. Doing anything in low is cancer unless you are part of well established PvP corp that “owns” it there. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/137 "2025-06-03T15:42:10Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > D-SCAN? There is still no Covert Combat probes except if CCP provides one. D-Scan is next to useless against a gank. I mean by the time a ship comes within the 14.5 AU range…well, if its doing 4AU per second you’ve got maybe 3 or 4 seconds till it arrives. The best protection against being ganked is intel and patience. Let that hauler in front of you get ganked…and then you can pass through while the gankers are all flashy red and docked up. And so on. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/138 "2025-06-03T15:42:55Z")
There is no massive difference there ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/139 "2025-06-03T15:45:28Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Let that hauler in front of you get ganked I agree in terms of hauling but mission runners has a different way of surviving. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/140 "2025-06-03T15:45:54Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > There is no massive difference there I can fly with 100 billion in cargo in 1.99align Sunesis through whole highsec in EVE and nobody will ever find out that it is happening and tries to kill me. Hell I can be suspect and I was. I once made a trip from Hatakani to Jita with 18b in Sunesis as suspect. Easy peasy. Now try that in lowsec. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/141 "2025-06-03T15:48:23Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > The difference is massive. I will give you a hint. Lowsec “gankers” attacks anything that comes to their gate and if they are well set up, and nowadays all these pipes are well set up, the only counterplay to not get killed is to use ship capable of warping with cloak There are _solo_ players in lowsec systems such as Kubinen, with 10,000 solo kills. Undocking at Jita is child’s play compared with undocking there. I’m training Gloria up to be one of those solo players. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/142 "2025-06-03T15:48:28Z")
Where is the massive difference? ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/143 "2025-06-03T15:53:52Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > There are _solo_ players in lowsec systems such as Kubinen, with 10,000 solo kills. Yep I gave him one myself. Undocking is not a problem. Doing anything is. I spammed dscan. Nothing. And then Curse appeared 30km from me and pointed me. Since I had AB I couldn’t outrun it. Since I had amarr ship I lost automatically because I can’t even shoot without cap that I lost within seconds. Lots of counterplay. If I land with my Phantasm into Gurista Den and there will be 5 Coercers, I am pretty confident I can outplay them and survive. ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/144 "2025-06-03T15:58:12Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > Assume by the time you see them on d-scan they have your position ok. now this > **[Corporation diplomacy - EVE University Wiki](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Corporation_diplomacy)** ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/145 "2025-06-03T16:01:04Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > I can fly with 100 billion in cargo in 1.99align Sunesis through whole highsec in EVE and nobody will ever find out that it is happening and tries to kill me. Hell I can be suspect and I was. I once made a trip from Hatakani to Jita with 18b in Sunesis as suspect. Easy peasy. Now try that in lowsec. I go round lowsec creating bookmarks 150km from all the gates. That way I can warp to the bookmark first…see if anyone is there…and then warp to the gate. Actually I also do similar bookmarks in some highsec systems. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/146 "2025-06-03T16:05:04Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > I go round lowsec creating bookmarks 150km from all the gates. That way I can warp to the bookmark first…see if anyone is there…and then warp to the gate. Actually I also do similar bookmarks in some highsec systems. That’s how I play. I have two ships that I love to fly in hostile space. A Proteus and a Deluge. They’re both fit for speed and stealth (just depends on if I’m flying or hauling of course). Before Captain Obvious comes along and tells me that “Everything can be ganked” I know. But this game is all about making the other person work hard for it. People are going to have to earn those kills! ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/147 "2025-06-03T16:45:06Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > I go round lowsec creating bookmarks 150km from all the gates. That way I can warp to the bookmark first…see if anyone is there…and then warp to the gate. Actually I also do similar bookmarks in some highsec systems. Yes that is helpful if the gatecamp is on _this_ side, but won’t save you against that gamecamp that is on the other side of the gate. Only covert ops cloak and if they setup drones and debris often not even that. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/148 "2025-06-03T17:00:40Z")
I once got decloaked by a corpse in low sec! ---
**Author:** ![Molea\_Enjoyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/molea_enjoyer/32/449451_2.png) [@Molea\_Enjoyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Molea_Enjoyer)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/149 "2025-06-03T17:42:27Z")
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