# Ganking cancer

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 3, 2025, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426 "2025-06-03T08:49:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/170 "2025-06-03T19:00:52Z")

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Wait… You can safely autopilot in High Sec? Since when?!  
BTW, Shoutout to @Aiko_Danuja for this kill.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/0/b/30b1623085b5735193fa27adf0517d7194dbf2eb.jpeg "Brand New Obelisk Ganked - EVE Online 1766") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFvORazvVDE)

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/171 "2025-06-03T19:04:22Z")

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Man, PLEX-tanked Shuttle was always safe to autopilot. 😉

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/172 "2025-06-03T19:24:39Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Null Sec

Is a safe space for **Null Bears**

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/173 "2025-06-03T19:29:30Z")

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> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> There really is no challenge to High Sec ganking

You know so much for one who knows so little

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/174 "2025-06-03T19:34:18Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> they all can’t accept any kind of non-consensual PvP

They would be quite happy though in null shooting apples in a barrel as they get stuck in a bubble.

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**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/175 "2025-06-03T19:36:35Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> I have chars that have never been ganked in over 3 years… and that includes mining and transporting stuff. I’ve transported billions worth through Uedama…never once faced gankers.

Same, except 15 years for me (coming up on 16).

I see ganking as part of the EVE ecosystem. But my problem with ganking is the same as with any aspect of EVE where _avoidance_ is the only meaningful counterplay. I don’t like that a ganker can put a gun to my head, and until they pull the trigger, my only option is to run away. Once they pull the trigger, it’s already to late.

I’ve said in a few threads, I’ll say it again here: disabling safeties (red) in hisec should incur a persistent suspect flag. Add a timer to enable or disable safeties (10-30s), and you now have meaningful counterplay to ganking and a risk/reward decision for gankers to make.

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**Author:** ![Molea\_Enjoyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/molea_enjoyer/32/449451_2.png) [@Molea\_Enjoyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Molea_Enjoyer)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/176 "2025-06-03T20:00:40Z")

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> [@Hatch\_Nasty](#):
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> disabling safeties (red) in hisec should incur a persistent suspect flag

There is people ganking with -10 security status which makes you not only suspect, but also targeted by the factional police few seconds after you land.

Your “fix” does nothing. Another 15 year newbie who never undocked.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/177 "2025-06-03T20:54:09Z")

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It won’t stop _some_ gankers, but would allow players to engage Tornados at the Jita gate.

Or am I missing something there, Molea Enjoyer?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/178 "2025-06-03T20:54:50Z")

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> [@Molea\_Enjoyer](#):
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> Another 15 year newbie who never undocked.

![200](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/6/6/0661458962d238bb4d1e3eb2d6e9a6eccd04da93.webp)

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**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/179 "2025-06-03T21:29:51Z")

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another bitter vet trowing a fit

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/180 "2025-06-03T21:40:35Z")

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If you leave a station in Null after ganking, you can launch right away.

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/181 "2025-06-03T21:42:02Z")

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-10’s in High Sec are always free to attack without a penalty.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Girl\_Kara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/good_girl_kara/32/494832_2.png) [@Good\_Girl\_Kara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Good_Girl_Kara)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/182 "2025-06-03T22:12:57Z")

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That’s cute. Now, calm down and pay for a permit.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/183 "2025-06-03T23:02:09Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> I mean, how different would HS be if CONCORD still inevitably arrived to destroy any criminal ship, but took 5 minutes to arrive?
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> HS space would become more like other parts of space where people also know how to survive while mining ore or doing missions, but with additional safety that any criminal ganker is guaranteed to lose their own ship… eventually.

A better idea would be for Concord to not be invincible. I’ve always found it a rather absurd violation of lore that these totally invincible ships exist…yet the factions are still fighting wars with destroyable ships.

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**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/184 "2025-06-03T23:04:43Z")

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last time concord wasn’t invicible it shutdown the market.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/185 "2025-06-03T23:11:43Z")

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That was due to Concorded ships being allowed to be repped…an oversight by CCP. All that was really required was to fix that particular issue, rather than making Concord indestructible as well.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/186 "2025-06-03T23:18:33Z")

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Markeedragon is great example on how to handle losses. I learn a lot from him. 😊

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**Author:** ![Zopiclone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zopiclone/32/409433_2.png) [@Zopiclone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zopiclone)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/187 "2025-06-03T23:23:34Z")

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Hi I understand you got ganked by me…

One… Please calm down. Two we gankers do not appreciate being called Cancer. We are a valuable aspect of the game and keep market prices up 3) we make profit. 4) we create content… (directly or indirectly) as this thread shows. 5) we upkeep the level of fear that was promised in game when I joined. 6) we demand your purchase of a Mining Permit. 7) you owe ISK. Thank you… and who are you to tell others how to play their sandbox game? CCP has nerfed ganking for years now. I’ve lost many ganking friends. Please stop whinning about YOUR own fault of not logging in a scout to make sure its safe to undock or go through a hole.

Stay SAFE out there. Or dont.

Thank you,

Zopiclone

❤ Destroyer 47,000 m3

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/188 "2025-06-03T23:26:44Z")

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But You need a Ganking Permit. You won’t be concorded if you have those.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-cancer/488426/189 "2025-06-03T23:33:02Z")

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