# Ganking funerals - crossing a line, or true to the spirit of EVE?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 17, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860 "2023-12-17T14:33:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/21 "2023-12-18T03:25:01Z")

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Are you talking about yourself?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/22 "2023-12-18T03:54:55Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> And you get prepared for the folks who need the anonymity of a video game to act out their worst behavior in order to feel big about themselves.

As well as the anonymity of online forum posting to play armchair psychologist!

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/23 "2023-12-18T03:54:58Z")

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EVE is, just like all gaming, an escape from real life and that is how it should remain. If you bring RL into the game then that’s a choice you can make but that doesn’t mean others are required to respect that. Would I personally disrupt such a thing? No I would not.

Having said that this is no different from someone being attacked going “guys I’m having a bad day, leave me alone” to then start screaming and demanding that people, indeed, leave him alone because… “muh real life”. This is EVE, if you choose to bring RL into that’s on you (and it’s generally a bad idea).

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**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/24 "2023-12-18T03:58:40Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> in EVE if a freighter was clearly labeled as being part of a Charity Relief fundraising event, ‘should’ it be left alone?

That trick wouldn’t work on me.  
It’s a covert weapons transport carrying all sorts of contraband and illegally traveling slaves for the enemy.  
“Man your turrets, Men!”

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/25 "2023-12-18T04:05:17Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> Having said that this is no different from someone being attacked going “guys I’m having a bad day, leave me alone” to then start screaming and demanding that people, indeed, leave him alone because… “muh real life”. This is EVE, if you choose to bring RL into that’s on you (and it’s generally a bad idea).

I love pasting this story:

> [@Streamer stops due to grief](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/streamer-stops-due-to-grief/375366/159):
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> I have a question. First, a story. I’ve told this story before, so some of you might already be familiar with it. Back in like 2010 or so, as I was doing high-sec mercenary work and running my little protection racket, I declared war on a group of carebears to extract a ransom (one of many such targets I’ve pursued). After a while of blowing up their ships, a few of them dragged me into a chat, and told me that one of their members had a bad heart condition, and although he was able to otherwi…

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/26 "2023-12-18T06:28:00Z")

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Exactly my point, weak minded people will _instantly_ use any sort of power & control they can get their hands on to “battle wrong think”. Apart from, you know, the tools, choices and options that exist within the core of game.

Next time I shop in Jita and have to pay 10% above average i’ll report them for micro aggressions, personal attacks and how that trader purposefully, and specifically, singled me out causing my [insert made up RL (mental) health issue] to act up. Then add some victim hood nonsense to it demanding special treatment and presto that player gets banned, feeding my desire for power.

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**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/27 "2023-12-18T06:45:45Z")

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Who did the ganking?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/28 "2023-12-18T08:29:35Z")

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@Aesir_Valtari@Kezrai_Charzai @Mr_Epeen

Very well said, agree 100% with your entire reply…

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**Author:** ![Daim\_Is](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daim_is/32/382305_2.png) [@Daim\_Is](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daim_Is)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/29 "2023-12-18T12:10:50Z")

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> [@Nicky\_Brightstar](#):
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> Should you expect to be blown up no matter what

In no security space YES  
In high security space NO

But in this forum the opinion is all space should be low or no security so deal with it by playing other games. There are plenty to choose from.

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**Author:** ![Kaeptn\_Bleibaer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaeptn_bleibaer/32/418926_2.png) [@Kaeptn\_Bleibaer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaeptn_Bleibaer)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/30 "2023-12-18T15:31:57Z")

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I think I was blown up 5 times on my way to the event already :))  
I gave up and just watched it online (was past 4 am for me anyway).  
Was I p\*ssed? Of course I was.  
Do I think it was against the rules or the rules should change? No.  
Same goes for the event itself. Just the more fireworks. I think that is beautiful and the equivalent of a nice bar brawl after everybody gets blackout drunk in someone’s honor…  
But yeah, depending on the people involved, it can be iffy.

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/31 "2023-12-18T16:22:15Z")

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Imagine having a funeral for someone on the middle of a football field during a game where the game isn’t stopped.

You’re gonna get trampled.

This is Eve Online.

If it’s acceptable to gank a funeral in any context, Eve Online is the place.

Wrecking someone’s day is the entire plot line.

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/32 "2023-12-18T16:23:02Z")

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> [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](#):
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> Who did the ganking?

the Bold and the Beautiful.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/33 "2023-12-19T00:38:29Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/d/1/6d1e1672a5b513a5e444bb3b5f04e0306135055d.jpeg "WoW Funeral Pwnage") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TSGUf1xbF8)

SHE LOVED FISHING. AND SNOW. AND PVP.

EVE aint the first.

To be honest, EVE is about PVP. Its a central concept of EVE. If I were to die, the best way to memorialize me, would be to gank and kill and be killed and rack up pages of kills on zkillboard. It would truly make me happy.

If you didnt want to be ganked, you shouldve held the funeral in the station. Otherwise, yeah, you were ganked, and thats part of the game.

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/34 "2023-12-19T01:09:52Z")

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If they were doing it _knowing_ it’s a funeral? Yes, massive **bleep** move, and I hope they got put on a **lot** of hit lists.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/35 "2023-12-19T01:15:32Z")

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In game, right?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/36 "2023-12-19T01:36:42Z")

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> [@Done25](#):
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> If they were doing it _knowing_ it’s a funeral? Yes, massive **bleep** move, and I hope they got put on a **lot** of hit lists.

If crashing EVE funerals resulted in being put on hit lists, I’d definitely go out and do it a couple of times. It’s _extremely_ difficult to be put on anyone’s “list” these days, much less having that list actually enforced. Even when you _really_ upset someone, and no matter how many threats they make in response, when the time comes for them to choose between either going after you to get revenge or going out to grind some more asteroids or NPC rats for the 2,649th time in a row, the latter _always_ wins out.

Carebears, including the “elite” null-sec carebears, never do anything about the abuse they take. Carebears are like cattle; they’ll squeal while you twist the knife, but three minutes later are back to munching grass. They simply aren’t hardwired to enforce their self-determination.

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/37 "2023-12-19T01:50:56Z")

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Well I for one have a list that I’m building. Sure I’m just a piddly week old new bro right now, but later… \>,\>

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/38 "2023-12-19T01:54:14Z")

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If I had a dime for everytime I’ve had that threat thrown at me, I’d be able to plex my account for a year.

Keep dreaming new bro.

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**Author:** ![Tare\_Bloodraven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tare_bloodraven/32/401656_2.png) [@Tare\_Bloodraven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tare_Bloodraven)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/39 "2023-12-19T03:57:00Z")

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The first thing they tell you is “Any time you undock you are unsafe”…  
As a 2006 player do I expect anyone to respect anyone’s wishes in this game “HELL NO!” they weill pee on your grave just a soon look a you in EVE…

There’s always someone to ruin everything you want do just because they can.  
What are the ramifications for their actions? Not a damn thing you can do…  
Can’t put them in EVE JAIL? I guess you could MERC them back to the stone age??? That’s the old school way…  
Fly Safe o7

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-funerals-crossing-a-line-or-true-to-the-spirit-of-eve/432860/40 "2023-12-19T07:24:35Z")

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> What are the ramifications for their actions? Not a damn thing you can do

Ctrl → F1

There’s a thing you can do.

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