# "Ganking has gone too far" vs "Not enough empire ganking" ? Poll inside!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 16, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427 "2018-06-16T17:49:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/1 "2018-06-16T17:49:29Z")

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What do we need?

_Poll ([view on site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/1))_

Vote!

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**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/2 "2018-06-16T18:14:47Z")

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Less threads about ganking tbh

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**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/3 "2018-06-16T18:18:11Z")

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“Let’s make a poll and point at it every other day.”

I agree with you.

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/4 "2018-06-16T18:18:32Z")

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I think high sec should just become low sec then the problem will resolve there wont be any! HEY I GOT GANKED IN HIGH SEC threads and it’ll become hey I was dumb and didn’t plan properly, how do I fly better? threads.

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**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/5 "2018-06-16T18:21:00Z")

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Lead by example Noragen and start a new thread with a new Rabble story ( rather than back in the day 😀 ). Read your new KB, plenty of material. C&P is all about ‘round the camp fire’ personal stories of daring do.

Now no more pissing in your pocket.

Story please.

😀😀😀

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**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/6 "2018-06-16T18:47:21Z")

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I posted one like 3-4 weeks ago. Trying to polish up some opsec and commitments before I do the next

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**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_cohenberg/32/423311_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Cohenberg)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/7 "2018-06-16T21:22:50Z")

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I’m not satisfied until there are no high sec haulers. If you fly a freighter I must bump you.

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**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/8 "2018-06-16T22:07:29Z")

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There’s no option for “Just the right amount of ganking.”

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**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/9 "2018-06-16T22:09:22Z")

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I’m sorry, that’s implied by “More ganking.”

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/10 "2018-06-17T02:56:35Z")

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We march forward to 100% compliance!

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**Author:** ![Keisari\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keisari_shi/32/67862_2.png) [@Keisari\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keisari_Shi)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/11 "2018-06-17T06:49:42Z")

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Who would you bump if there would be no highsec haulers?

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**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/12 "2018-06-17T08:48:40Z")

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We’ve reached [Zipf’s Law](https://www.google.at/search?q=ziff%27s+law&oq=ziff%27s+law&aqs=chrome..69i57.2244j0j7&client=tablet-android-lenovo&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8) of [80/20](https://youtu.be/fCn8zs912OE).

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/13 "2018-06-17T09:38:29Z")

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Your poll is invalid, as it doesn’t have an option for “ **I like the level of ganking we currently have, leave it alone** ”.

Which would certainly get my vote.

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**Author:** ![Nisanthro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nisanthro/32/169173_2.png) [@Nisanthro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nisanthro)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/14 "2018-06-17T12:13:00Z")

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In before “only sociopaths and forum trolls would want more ganking! They want this game to die!”

o/

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**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/15 "2018-06-17T16:03:37Z")

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Sure, but the poll reflects the indecisiveness of the forum, as can be seen by the title and the respective threads. that’s why your option is missing.

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/16 "2018-06-17T16:13:09Z")

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> [@Ember\_Fireheart](#):
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> I think high sec should just become low sec then the problem will resolve there wont be any! HEY I GOT GANKED IN HIGH SEC threads and it’ll become hey I was dumb and didn’t plan properly, how do I fly better? threads.

HAHAHAHAHAHA. As if. The crybears won’t magically disappear, instead they’ll cry about how there isn’t any “safe” highsec anymore. It really doesn’t matter what you change, or how easy you make it. There will always be stupid and entitled players crying about how the game doesn’t cater perfectly to them and them alone.

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**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/17 "2018-06-17T16:14:52Z")

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Being the first to ■■■■ into a thread does not make it smell nice. there’s one badly translated metaphor for you.

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**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_cohenberg/32/423311_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Cohenberg)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/18 "2018-06-17T18:19:40Z")

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I’d move on to something else if there were no more haulers in the game

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**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/19 "2018-06-17T18:35:55Z")

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more ganking…

Tbh, as a non-high-sec pvper (low-sec and wh mostly) I think we mostly need more people in low/wh. Lowering the risk differential (by making HS more risky) may encourage people to do so.

The other part of the equation of course is making risky space more profitable than high sec.

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**Author:** ![Omnathious\_Deninard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omnathious_deninard/32/266675_2.png) [@Omnathious\_Deninard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omnathious_Deninard)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/20 "2018-06-17T18:39:26Z")

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I don’t make enough money anymore, more stuff needs to explode

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