# "Ganking has gone too far" vs "Not enough empire ganking" ? Poll inside!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 16, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427 "2018-06-16T17:49:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/61 "2018-06-19T11:13:38Z")

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Look guys  
An internet psychologist who calls people “retards”, “shitters” and “morons”

We must heed his advice asap

/s

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**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/62 "2018-06-19T11:49:09Z")

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Dom Dom Dom, Zotberg is calling you and himself a “moron” and “shitter”.

I’m calling Codies, and you if you want by extension, “tards”. Get It right.😀

Now write it out 100 times:

Clearer Dom?  
😀😀🙄

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/63 "2018-06-19T12:07:32Z")

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More ganking

Why?  
-more destruction, therefore more stuff to build  
-less stagnancy  
-more content  
-more people staying subbed to participate or fight against it  
-less inflation since there will not be any overstock of items  
-more salt from the anti-content people

The one thing we need less of tho is “grr gankers” threads 😃

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/64 "2018-06-19T13:01:03Z")

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> [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](#):
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> The usage of cancer placed in context was sound and proper.

I disagree, but I understand that your apparent lack of empathy would lead to that attitude. You can probably tell that my response to you was caused by my personal experience, and leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![Alaric\_Faelen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alaric_faelen/32/187278_2.png) [@Alaric\_Faelen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alaric_Faelen)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/65 "2018-06-19T13:11:49Z")

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Vote with a Bullet

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**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/66 "2018-06-19T13:51:15Z")

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I never said anything about staying on topic. They can ■■■■ around in any thread and no matter the topic, the smell’s always the same.

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**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/67 "2018-06-19T14:18:24Z")

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> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> > [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](#):
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> > The usage of cancer placed in context was sound and proper.
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> I disagree, but I understand that your apparent lack of empathy would lead to that attitude. You can probably tell that my response to you was caused by my personal experience, and leave it at that.

Your perspective, suggest you get professional counselling. The word was correctly placed in context. You are in error and should seek help elsewhere. Not a matter of empathy, personal medical history not the stuff for guilting or shaming, keep it off the Forums. Totally inappropriate, and you know it.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/68 "2018-06-19T14:47:00Z")

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> [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](#):
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> _more justifications for unacceptable behaviour_

I really can’t be bothered, FOAD

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**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/69 "2018-06-19T15:08:34Z")

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> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> > [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](#):
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> > _more justifications for unacceptable behaviour_
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> I really can’t be bothered, FOAD

More quote manipulation, use your own advise and “leave it at that”. You should not be proud of your behaviour.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/70 "2018-06-19T16:47:08Z")

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I think your profile tells me all I need to know about you - “Proud to be heterosexual”, really, in this day and age ?

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/71 "2018-06-19T17:29:56Z")

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Nitshe is a pretty strange being, dw about him

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/72 "2018-06-19T22:00:10Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> The only non-toxic ag I know is knowledgeminer and I think it is because he likes what he does. I’m sure he would vote for more ganking since that is more content and more fun for him.

Hehe, actually no, I like what I do but I wouldn’t vote for either more or less ganking. I have to say I don’t really understand this poll and, no offence, but I find it a bit silly, tbh, so I’m not participating.

What does it mean to want either more or less ganking? That I want game mechanics to be modified in that direction? That I want more or less players to be gankers? That I want more or less potential victims out there? That I want them to be dumber or smarter?

I don’t want most of those things. I’m fine with the many changes that have been made to suicide ganking related mechanics over the years already and think it’s all well balanced overall now. Suicide ganking is possible, as it should be, and potential victims have plenty of options and trade-offs to deal with it, as it should be too.

I just hate when people ask for game mechanics they don’t even understand to be changed in their favour, but that’s not because I want either more or less ganking. If victims eventually became smarter and gankers asked for ganking to be made easier to compensate for that, I would be against that too.

Only ganking related mechanic I don’t have an informed opinion about is bumping. I see how affected pilots may want that to at least be looked at, but I have yet to see a rational and well argued proposal about it, and I don’t really care that much, tbh. Being able to keep a freighter bumped for hours makes no sense to me, but on the other hand if that ever happened to me I’d just laugh at the bumper and feel sorry for him while I go do something else…

As to the toxicity, there are many _uninformed_ players, but not that many _toxic_ players on either side, they’re just much more vocal and make a lot of noise, but I don’t get called a ganker spai that often in AG channel, just every now and then… 😄

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**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/73 "2018-06-19T22:33:10Z")

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> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> I think your profile tells me all I need to know about you - “Proud to be heterosexual”, really, in this day and age ?

Questioning someone’s sexuality as a form of ridicule is against the terms of the EULA.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/74 "2018-06-19T23:48:23Z")

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Kicked back a post for being a bit too edgy.

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**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/75 "2018-06-20T01:00:27Z")

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In theory if somebody wanted to ask you a question do you read evemails?

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/76 "2018-06-20T06:35:23Z")

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This guy reminds me a lot of Veers Belvar.

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**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/77 "2018-06-20T15:53:32Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> This guy reminds me a lot of Veers Belvar.

Veers passed me the role of carrying the Fire.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/1/f/a1f47e039056ffc8956791b6f4d56d587db25c6d.jpeg "The Road are you carrying the fire") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXlBmQfnWCY&t=14s)

In C&P Veers was outnumbered, regularly ridiculed and scorned. But he stuck to his ‘swords/guns’ and proudly held the torch in the dim light. A true Libertarian.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/78 "2018-06-20T17:33:41Z")

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> [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](#):
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> A frustration with unbalanced Bumping; Risk vs Reward. (Dracvald gives a very detailed pragmatic explanation.)

You have no idea what fits of giggles sentences like this give me. 😂

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**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/79 "2018-06-20T17:39:34Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Chicken](#):
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> We march forward to 100% compliance!

Same same. Coz you believe the scripts Jimmy hands you to parrot. ( peeps like Oz Exc know its a joke )

😀😀🤣

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far-vs-not-enough-empire-ganking-poll-inside/83427/80 "2018-06-20T20:06:19Z")

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Yesss

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