# Ganking has gone too far

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 2, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071 "2018-06-02T02:56:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 45

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**Author:** ![Letharu\_Polsteree](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/letharu_polsteree/32/495399_2.png) [@Letharu\_Polsteree](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Letharu_Polsteree)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/919 "2019-01-21T00:30:47Z")

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Codey, do you make sense, like ever?

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/920 "2019-01-21T08:14:39Z")

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Preys don’t need to understand their predators, they just need to be eaten.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/921 "2019-01-21T16:13:20Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> Preys don’t need to understand their predators, they just need to be eaten.

Unless of course… They all leave…

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/922 "2019-01-21T16:14:29Z")

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Even amongst predators there are prey 😉

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/923 "2019-01-21T16:27:31Z")

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Oh, really? gimme some examples where and when it happened please…

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/924 "2019-01-21T16:29:30Z")

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There’s always a bigger fish.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/925 "2019-01-21T17:00:10Z")

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> [@Clockwork\_Robot](#):
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> Unless if course… They all leave…

This kind of stuff right here is why you get treated like a carebear on these forums.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/926 "2019-01-21T17:15:17Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> Oh, really? gimme some examples where and when it happened please…

I can help you, first;

Look at the CODE. killboard.  
Observe the Goon/imperium kills therein.  
Realize that the goons/imperium run Burn Jita and are “predators” that have been “preyed” upon.  
Realize that people who fly in gank fleets also have logistics alts that fly freighters and occasionally get ganked (though usually not, because they understand how EXTREMELY easy it is to avoid).  
Realize that the russians gank sometimes.  
Realize that PH ganks sometimes.  
and finally;  
Realize how short-sighted you’ve been.

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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/927 "2019-01-21T17:33:13Z")

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Everyone loses to someone. There’s a reason that the only way to win Eve is to not play.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/928 "2019-01-21T17:37:47Z")

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Ok, fresh start:

> [@Clockwork\_Robot](#):
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> Unless if course… They all leave…

> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> gimme some examples where and when it happened

And you give me this:

> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> I can help you, first;
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> Look at the CODE. killboard.  
> Observe the Goon/imperium kills therein.  
> Realize that the goons/imperium run Burn Jita and are “predators” that have been “preyed” upon.  
> Realize that people who fly in gank fleets also have logistics alts that fly freighters and occasionally get ganked (though usually not, because they understand how EXTREMELY easy it is to avoid).  
> Realize that the russians gank sometimes.  
> Realize that PH ganks sometimes.  
> and finally;  
> Realize how short-sighted you’ve been.

Are you ok?

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/929 "2019-01-21T17:41:27Z")

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Lol no, if I’m honest. Just got up, 🤣

I misunderstood, I retract, I apologize.

What can I say, foruming is hard… 😚

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/930 "2019-01-21T19:17:31Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> This kind of stuff right here is why you get treated like a carebear on these forums.

If you say so, G.P. I gotta ask though… Do you suppose my boss might fire me, or my landlady evict me, if they found out that I

> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> get treated like a carebear on these forums.

Or will I lose my security clearance? Geez. That would really suck… I worked hard for that.

I guess I should try to keep it under wraps that I

> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> get treated like a carebear on these forums.

Because the myriad, tangible consequences of

> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> getting treated like a carebear on these forums.

Are frankly horrifying.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/931 "2019-01-21T19:20:31Z")

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You’re coming at me with hostility right out of the gate there buddy. I didn’t say that it was necessarily going to happen, nor that I wanted it to.

I’m not one of the bigger fish you speak of. I barely rate as a tiny fish, ask Galaxy Pig. I just try to keep up with the narrative that I’m seeing. There hasn’t been one lately, but I remember there being a glut of threads discussing why this game seems to have a problem retaining players.

Guy, I have a hard time believing that folks will want to continue logging in to be fish for you to shoot in a barrel. But if you tell me that I’m wrong, and that’s exactly what’s happening, I’ll be the first to admit that I was incorrect.

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**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/932 "2019-01-21T19:21:41Z")

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> [@Clockwork\_Robot](#):
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> I have a hard time believing that folks will want to continue logging in to be fish for you to shoot in a barrel.

This.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/933 "2019-01-21T19:32:08Z")

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> [@Clockwork\_Robot](#):
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> I have a hard time believing that folks will want to continue logging in to be fish for you to shoot in a barrel.

This is the defeatist attitude that is the hallmark of the carebear. Jus’ sayin’. If you’re really in the military, honestly you should have more pride than this.

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/934 "2019-01-21T19:39:52Z")

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🙄

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/935 "2019-01-21T20:03:09Z")

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And yet here we are.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/936 "2019-01-21T20:14:15Z")

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> [@Clockwork\_Robot](#):
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> Guy, I have a hard time believing that folks will want to continue logging in to be fish for you to shoot in a barrel.

People have done this consistently for 15 years. People don’t leave because they are killed, people leave because they are bored. That’s not the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/937 "2019-01-22T02:09:35Z")

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EVE would be boring without danger. The New Order government is dangerous, because it enforces the law with swift and decisive punishment. People enjoy playing the villain, and they like to see what dastardly crimes they can get away with. The New Order is always there to provide justice, forcing miners to go back to square 1 and try to figure out how they can smuggle more ore.

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**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/938 "2019-01-22T09:49:26Z")

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Yeah you’re right but how does one fight back against suicide gank ships? Suicide their tornado with your own tornado? Boring. Theres no fun counter it’s just learn to hide better scrub.

They should just make safety red in hs require a corp structure. Atm suicide ganking is one of the most risk averse gameplay. Inb4 wah I have to defend something from ships that aren’t transports.

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