# Ganking has gone too far **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 2, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071 "2018-06-02T02:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/999 "2019-01-28T03:41:17Z")
OK, replace “you” with “they” in everything I said then. Doesn’t change the slightest the fact that what you said about the issue is wrong, though… ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1000 "2019-01-28T05:03:05Z")
> [@Luke\_Icecon](#): > > it’s about anyone dumb enough to use a freighter in highsec. i’m flying freighters, still no traces of such losses on my freighter alt kb. Some are dumber than others. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1001 "2019-01-28T09:02:53Z")
> [@Chinsuko\_Orlenard](#): > > The first page of your link are over 63% Ganks, the next 4 pages are \>80% ganks. > > So your statement is generally inaccurate ("… hardly any… ") when using the link you provided. I said hardly any as compared to before. I just counted now and I got 46% ganks. Last time I remember trying this like two years ago I remember it was like 66%-75% ganks, with most of the rest being wars, and then like 5-10% other ways people lost a freighter in highsec, likely kill rights or some other way they went suspect. Now, this “other” category seems much larger, and are probably the kills you are confusing with real suicide ganks, as a fraction of the freighter losses in highsec, at least in the small sample size of the last 50 kills on the first page of zKill. But the fact remains that of the _bona fide_ ganks, none of them were empty, and the average cargo was in the multi-billions of ISK (aside from the double plastic wrapped ones). Ganking empty freighters is not an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1002 "2019-01-28T10:39:26Z")
At some point, you will realize you’re wasting your time, broham. Like I did. Took a while, but I got there. You will too. ---
**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1003 "2019-01-28T11:21:02Z")
Wrong attitude dude! I fly courier contracts to help support my pvp activities. Mostly fly freighter with very high collateral and haven’t been ganked in 5 years, completing thousands of contracts. No scouts, no webs. Last weekend I took 3 Sotiyos and 8 Fortizars through Uedama, easy peazy. Flying couriers is not as risky as everyone says and ganks are not out of control by any means. Ganking just culls the stupid. You must understand CODE are lazy and pretty stupid themselves. You just have to be a little smarter than they are and you’ll be fine. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1004 "2019-01-28T13:05:53Z")
> [@Luke\_Icecon](#): > > That’s just like your opinion man. Yes, let’s do an additional 16 slow jumps in highsec to avoid Uedama. What a wonderful way to spend an afternoon. > > Gate camps are fair game in nullsec, that’s great, that’s the point. But why should folks be entitled to gatecamp chokepoint highsec systems which affect everyone in the game yet the average joe cannot fly their empty jump freighter in highsec? You’re not entitled to get to and from Jita. And no one is entitled to camp systems. They are putting serious amounts of effort and resources into it. Eve is a pvp game at all times in all areas. If jita is too hard for you to reach, you can sell your stuff else where. Check your entitlement. Welcome to the sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1005 "2019-01-29T10:16:44Z")
Can you imagine how bad this whole carebear situation will be in five to ten years? ---
**Author:** ![zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zen-vexor01_lsg/32/106581_2.png) [@zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zen-vexor01_LSG)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1007 "2019-01-29T12:34:06Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > New players should NOT be in freighters. And then what did they paid with their monthly subscription money ??? Third class ticket ??? ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1008 "2019-01-29T12:51:40Z")
Hmmmm, new meat for the Freighter Friends, yum yum. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1009 "2019-01-29T12:54:22Z")
New players don’t have the skills or ISK to fly a freighter. You are just whining because CODE. is dedicated to bringing fun and excitement to all parts of EVE. ---
**Author:** ![zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zen-vexor01_lsg/32/106581_2.png) [@zen-vexor01\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zen-vexor01_LSG)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1010 "2019-01-29T13:00:13Z")
There is no one to whine in Eve, everybody just left it … 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Elyham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elyham/32/179528_2.png) [@Elyham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elyham)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1011 "2019-01-29T15:53:35Z")
At this point it does not matter. With the new decision to remove CONCORD things will get better and eventually even out. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1012 "2019-01-29T15:58:11Z")
> [@Elyham](#): > > With the new decision to remove CONCORD Source? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1013 "2019-01-29T16:02:07Z")
Wat? 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1014 "2019-01-29T16:10:30Z")
Foxbolt. ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1015 "2019-01-30T10:15:35Z")
The CODE. cultists think of themselves as the savior and the ulitmate law of highsec. In reality they are nothing but cowardly and shallow individuals desiring to make up for their own insecurity by preying on the weak and revelling in sadistic desires of doing so. I have seen many innocent capsuleers criticize their ways, calling them “bullies” which is a very accurate title. Yet those sad degenerates of capsuleers just laugh at such accusations, savoring on the sufferings of the victims. For past few days, I have refused to interact with any of these fascist scums in this forum, for whatever i say they will not listen and will always make fun of it no matter what. However, ignoring them will only make them stronger, capsuleers must unite to purge their blasphemies. A good CODE. cultist is not a dead CODE. cultist. It is a CODE. Cultist with their bodies frozen, floating among stars for all to see and be humiliated for rest of millenia. This is coming from a non-miner with no SP invested on it and was never ganked. Even with such backgrounds, i am capable to see their evil and all reasonable capsuleers will be able to do so. And finally, CODE. is not the law nor justice, just a despicable pretender of it. And I choose to renounce them not for my victimization, but for their oppression against the weak. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Prophit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_prophit/32/117930_2.png) [@The\_Prophit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Prophit)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1016 "2019-01-30T11:29:48Z")
o/ All of you have great arguement though some may be taking things a bit more personal. I’m not a fan of ganking but I understand the need for it. The only real issue that annoys me about this topic is that nobody seems to wonder how a Macharial \<— Bad spelling, can continuosly ram into a freighter ( 6 times its size ) and recieve no damage at all. If they could somehow work out a fix on that I think that would solve a few issues. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1017 "2019-01-30T12:49:21Z")
3 letters P.E.G. You’re welcome 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1018 "2019-01-30T12:53:07Z")
Because you wouldn’t like realistic bumping physics. Bumping becomes an exercise in ballistics after a certain point. Base mass of a Machariel is 94,680,000 kg, a 500MN MWD adds another 50,000,000 kg and a potential velocity of approx 5KM/s. A freighter is basically an box with an engine, a bumping fitted Machariel would punch through it like an armour piercing round through a watermelon. For reference that’s about 1.5 Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers travelling at more than 14x the speed of sound. Physics, and Leeloo Dallas, say big badaboom. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1019 "2019-01-30T13:17:56Z")
We would much prefer that instead of having to bump the freighter, we can instead hurtle a smaller cheaper spaceship into it at high velocity and watch the explosion. My interceptor will finally have a purpose. +1 vote for realistic bumping physics! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071.md?page=48) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071.md?page=50)