# Ganking has gone too far **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 2, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071 "2018-06-02T02:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1144 "2019-02-10T18:18:40Z")
Well, first, let me clarify that we are not roleplaying. Everybody in CODE actually believes that James is the saviour of high-sec, and that the miners are bot aspirants who must be purged with fire, in order to teach them an important life lesson. So if we are an in-game cult, let me assure you that we are also a cult in real life. I am glad to hear that you only roleplay as an anti-CODE activist, and your real life adult self recognizes the inalienable legitimacy of James as the High King of New Halaima and Archbishop of Kamio. I would also like to point out that I am hardly the “most dedicated CODE. fanatic in the game.” I am just a humble servant, and a mere blade of His sword called JUSTICE. Were I asked to direct you toward a more dedicated disciple, I would point you in the direction of Lewak. Now then, CODE. should most certainly have it’s own SKIN design. I believe that a black/orange/white design would be appropriate, and with high resolution graphics you should be able to see such stenciled phrases as “PUBLIC SAFETY”, “BORDER PATROL”, and “Friends don’t let friends mine without a permit!” Our fireworks would naturally create the alliance logo. Unlike other fireworks, they would not fade away, but permanently grace visitors with the very visage of James, always! ---
**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1145 "2019-02-10T18:20:19Z")
Christ, you never get tired of talking to yourselves do you? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1146 "2019-02-10T18:20:38Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/8/08c3be759e5d504a42532719167398705e0ba040.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1147 "2019-02-10T18:23:52Z")
“and your real life adult self recognizes the inalienable legitimacy of James as the High King of New Halaima and Archbishop of Kamio.” Nope I see only players, that is all. And I do hate fascists in real life and that also does make me roleplay as anti code freedom fighter in eve, which makes me one in real life as well. And permanent fireworks, that is sansha talk idiocy right there … If you are serious not being roleplaying… one of your fellow cultists accused me once of being to absorbed in just a game and i should be focused more in real life You seem to be the one suffering from that problem yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1148 "2019-02-10T18:25:31Z")
We are not fascists, that is where you are confused. We are simple public servants, dedicated to preserving the asteroid belts so that future generations may enjoy the high security zone. ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1149 "2019-02-10T18:29:08Z")
“Our flaws and faults, these near-indelible errors pervading throughout human history, they can all be removed. Together, as one, we can overcome the enemy within.” - Sansha Kuvakei As you see all tyrants have a way to justify themselves. Your preserving future argument is no better. ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1150 "2019-02-10T18:32:38Z")
I suppose it was a mistake to try reasoning with her after all. ---
**Author:** ![Rico\_Erata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rico_erata/32/119023_2.png) [@Rico\_Erata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rico_Erata)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1151 "2019-02-10T18:39:22Z")
To be perfectly honest, I don’t have an issue with Ganking in general, but I’d like to see more of a penalty on the Ganker. Alot of gankers are using HS Alts trained specifically for the purpose and supply isk from their mains for the purpose. I’d like to see more of a penality on the character for participating in successful ganking. There needs to be more of a risk for the character carrying out the gank. ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1152 "2019-02-10T18:40:30Z")
Thank you for returning this post to its main point. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1153 "2019-02-10T18:46:09Z")
I mean, are non-gankers really experts on ganking? What makes you guys think you have any clue about who is an alt, who is a main, or how we fund our business operation? ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1154 "2019-02-10T18:54:16Z")
> [@Rico\_Erata](#): > > There needs to be more of a risk for the character carrying out the gank. What greater risk could there be than 100% losing your ship, and very quickly losing your CONCORD protection? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1155 "2019-02-10T19:12:11Z")
Without us, carebears would face no risk in high-sec, so it’s a good thing we are here to help cull the herd. This is sacred work! ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1156 "2019-02-10T20:27:46Z")
Tell me. Why is being a carebear wrong in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1157 "2019-02-10T20:54:07Z")
Because they tried to scam Professor Coldheart and Auntie Freeze out of 10 million isk. ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1158 "2019-02-10T20:59:26Z")
Ha. Funny. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1159 "2019-02-11T04:01:21Z")
> [@Octavech\_Raholan](#): > > Simple, just gank and do not make it a law. > Do not claim your cult as a savior of highsec and force others to obey it. > Just gank if you want to. > That is all. Interesting… So you actually have no problem with what we do, but rather what we say while doing it? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1160 "2019-02-11T08:22:02Z")
Would you prefer if I sent all my gank victims a mail telling them that I’m conforming with your made up rules and that it means you’re allowing me to gank? I’ll make sure to have your name linked in the mail, too, so they can contact you and ask you for additional information. We could call it “Octavech Raholan’s Guide to Ethic Ganking” or something. I’m sure they’ll all appreciate it! ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1161 "2019-02-11T08:23:35Z")
> [@Rico\_Erata](#): > > There needs to be more of a risk for the character carrying out the gank. That’s supposed to be the job of the other players. Don’t ask ■■■■■■■ Big Brother to take care of ■■■■ you should be able to deal with yourself. There’s plenty of players out there trying to catch me at gates and some even use combat probes (which is hilarious), when they see me bouncing around on grid. They’re doing it right! Why don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1162 "2019-02-11T11:08:09Z")
And also you will be subjected to efforts to counteract them, including myself. I am against ganking itself before I am against CODE. All I am saying is that gank happens and that does not mean I defend ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1163 "2019-02-11T11:19:29Z")
Have I ever defended ganking? I am against ganking itslef but what I said in that fellows post is that I am aware it happens and he is free to do so as much as i am free to fight against it. Every single players of the game is free to do whatever they want as long as it does not violate CCP terms. Even you are free to follow your own code of might makes right philosophy in Eve as much I am free to renounce it. What you are suggesting is a slander campaign and although I am aware that Eve itself is extremely generous in player to player hostility, I am afraid that would be moving it too far even in eve standards. If an alliance operating in beginner-heavy highsec is proven capable of isolating a single player by misrepresenting what he or she said, that will be cause quite a controversy. … Besides despite your often occuring accusation of some people being easily offended you seem pretty agitated yourself. Eve is a game and CODE. and ganking is all content. As I mentioned before the only thing I thank CODE. is they provided me with an enemy I can fight throughout my gameplay. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071.md?page=55) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071.md?page=57)