# Ganking has gone too far

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 2, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071 "2018-06-02T02:56:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 60

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**Author:** ![Tecros\_Shtemerk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tecros_shtemerk/32/194847_2.png) [@Tecros\_Shtemerk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tecros_Shtemerk)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1224 "2019-02-23T09:00:08Z")

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You tried to bend reality but you failed, nice try 🤣

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**Author:** ![Tecros\_Shtemerk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tecros_shtemerk/32/194847_2.png) [@Tecros\_Shtemerk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tecros_Shtemerk)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1225 "2019-02-23T09:01:30Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> CCP devs

??? where you see developers in CCP, I can se only wanna be developers 🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1226 "2019-02-23T11:48:45Z")

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So special that we can all recognise whose alt it is.

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**Author:** ![Loota\_Plex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loota_plex/32/311135_2.png) [@Loota\_Plex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loota_Plex)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1227 "2019-02-24T09:35:41Z")

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No, we can do better, New Eden’s economy demands more ganks.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1229 "2019-03-08T19:52:49Z")

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I’ll just take this moment to say, ahem, told ya so kiddos 😉

The recent change to the War Dec system clearly shows that CCP is acknowledging that catering to a small set of toxic, predatory customers will not help their game grow 🥳

Oh look, and new drama too, i’ll be right back with snacks.

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1230 "2019-03-08T19:59:29Z")

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> [@Loota\_Plex](#):
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> No, we can do better, New Eden’s economy demands more ganks.

That is not entirely true. The word is destruction, not ganks. As ganks bring destruction, also more fleet PvP, harder NPCs, factional warfare, and hunt bots also give. Oh and don’t tell me you guys do that to hunt bots, only weak minds or newcomers fell to that, why just don’t admit you guys like to do it? It’s no shame.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1231 "2019-03-09T00:24:27Z")

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We only gank bots and bot aspirants.

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1232 "2019-03-09T02:13:49Z")

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No, thats the thing you where “programmed” to say. I find gankers more and more automated as well, some even not respond to a gf anymore. Should you pay a permit and prove you not a bot aspirant as well?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1233 "2019-03-09T03:57:47Z")

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You can examine my profile, and will notice that I wear my permit with pride.

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**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1234 "2019-03-09T04:00:18Z")

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Just like a brainless slave proud of her own leash.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1235 "2019-03-09T04:32:06Z")

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I’m sorry ma’am, but permits are mandatory, even in the forums.

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**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1236 "2019-03-09T04:44:10Z")

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Go ahead, gank me if you can.  
So far many have failed.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1237 "2019-03-09T04:47:44Z")

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You are 1.5 billion into the 100% snuggly hole, I don’t think anyone has failed to gank you.

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**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1238 "2019-03-09T08:58:55Z")

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Let’s clear it once and for all, ganking is released to hide the lack of content. With amazing conversion, the players themselves have become content. Unfortunately, that did not bring good financial results, but CCP does not have anyone who can create the right content and is now in big trouble.

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**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1239 "2019-03-09T11:35:35Z")

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Just to be clear I think it’s nice some players roleplay they follow a Messiah that think is savior of hisec, etc etc, I don’t get mad when I got ganked, I even lost an orca recently by a very stupid lack of attention, but what really get into my nerves is that most of them threat other players like ■■■■. Don’t think THAT brings any content.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1240 "2019-03-09T17:04:40Z")

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I’m just glad you guys are content.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1241 "2019-03-09T17:16:05Z")

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CCP has said they like the fact that ganking is a player created form of emergent content. It is something that CCP has balanced here and there, but that’s only because of how players are ganking.

You and Insee things differently. I enjoy creating my own content, ganking or not ganking… There’s a reason why I get bored of World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2, and other games where the developers determine what you do as an activity. You say there’s a lack of content, but I challenge you to go make your own… it’s kinda what Eve Online has been historically popular for.

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**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1242 "2019-03-09T17:39:36Z")

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You are the minority and CCP desperately need majority of possible market to survive. I know it is not very good news for you, but for ccp you and your gamesitile are obsolete.

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**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1243 "2019-03-09T17:43:04Z")

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CCP will continue to do what they believe is in their best financial interest. Players will constantly try to adapt to retain the same experience they previously desired… until it becomes impossible.

I may be the minority, but as of right now I still have room to adapt as I please.

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1244 "2019-03-09T18:03:57Z")

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Just gonna post this here as well.

_LSG and Balos, for example, both are convinced that a sandbox MMO, that is fundamentally based in PvP, is an outdated game model. They are convinced that modern MMOs always have to include a complete safe space or PvP/PvE has to be clearly seperated, in order to appeal to modern gamers. Yet, I am still waiting for them to reference anything that supports that notion._

If you are confused, mimi45 is LSG.

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