# Ganking has gone too far

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 2, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071 "2018-06-02T02:56:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1346 "2019-04-24T22:02:06Z")

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Idk man when someone asks if I had fun doing something I usually don’t just say yes and neither does anyone I know. They explain why and what was fun about it. For example when I welp a (many) Hyperion(s) and someone asks I’ll say yeah these things are so cheap to lose and you always get to pvp a bunch of people it’s a rush and you almost always get some kills. I think eviscerating someone’s response to the question and finding some strange reason to call it a justification is a more awkward thing to do. This is especially true when the question was meant as a jab to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1347 "2019-04-25T00:41:21Z")

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> [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](#):
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> Idk man when someone asks if I had fun doing something I usually don’t just say yes and neither does anyone I know. They explain why and what was fun about it.

Okay… but notice how that’s not what Drac did.

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**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1348 "2019-04-25T00:58:59Z")

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Yeah but the question was meant as a jab to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1349 "2019-04-25T01:03:57Z")

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Yeah, okay. Dracvlad is fun to ridicule. And…?

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**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1350 "2019-04-25T03:56:12Z")

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He’s not the one that looks ridiculous when exchanges like that happen.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1351 "2019-04-25T05:25:44Z")

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Only miners would claim that asking if they had fun is some kind of “jab”. Once again, indirectly acknowledging that no, its not fun.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1352 "2019-04-25T06:01:47Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> ![](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/40/50019_2.png) Sepheir\_Sepheron:
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> > Idk man when someone asks if I had fun doing something I usually don’t just say yes and neither does anyone I know. They explain why and what was fun about it.
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> Okay… but notice how that’s not what Drac did.

Actually that is what I did, again you are trying so hard.

> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> Yeah, okay. Dracvlad is fun to ridicule. And…?

You make yourself look incredibly stupid when you do it. I called you out as fat entitled and lazy in game and all you can do is act as if you won something on the forums.

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Only miners would claim that asking if they had fun is some kind of “jab”. Once again, indirectly acknowledging that no, its not fun.

I detailed what I found fun about it, you then got all butthurt. Nothing much else to say…

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**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1353 "2019-04-25T07:02:33Z")

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Being that dense.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1355 "2019-04-25T07:19:27Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Well mining is not fun, and Eve is often not fun

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I detailed what I found fun about it

This is what a psychologist would describe as ‘cognitive dissonance’ - persisting in the fallacious notion that mining is fun, even after admitting that it is not fun. Like most miners, Dracvlad has an obsessive ‘need’ to mine, attempting to convince himself and others that this is fun, when he knows deep down that it’s not fun at all.

The subject feels trapped, forced to mine against his own will, and yet he is both slave and master of the obsession. Therefore, even as he cries out for help and admits the truth, daring someone to come and stop him, he simultaneously insists that this is what he actually wants to be doing. His mind recoils at the idea that he has been ‘playing’ a game that isn’t even fun. Consequently, when others try to help him, the miner lashes out in anger and frustration.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1356 "2019-04-25T07:37:53Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> This is what a psychologist would describe as ‘cognitive dissonance’ - persisting in the fallacious notion that mining is fun, even after admitting that it is not fun. Like most miners, Dracvlad has an obsessive ‘need’ to mine, attempting to convince himself and others that this is fun, when he knows deep down that it’s not fun at all.

Except you are not a psychologist, and any psychologist worth their salt would not diagnose someone without a number of one on one assessments. You are talking pure rubbish.

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> The subject feels trapped, forced to mine against his own will, and yet he is both slave and master of the obsession. Therefore, even as he cries out for help and admits the truth, daring someone to come and stop him, he simultaneously insists that this is what he actually wants to be doing. His mind recoils at the idea that he has been ‘playing’ a game that isn’t even fun. Consequently, when others try to help him, the miner lashes out in anger and frustration.

Projecting is an art form.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1357 "2019-04-25T08:02:34Z")

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Agents of the New Order are certainly qualified to diagnose common mining afflictions.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1358 "2019-04-25T08:11:50Z")

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Are you calling me common?

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**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1361 "2019-04-25T09:13:35Z")

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I can use also a lot of alts to flag all your posts, but i think that will be an abuse, right?

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1362 "2019-04-25T09:14:21Z")

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it seems to be a common theme on the forums at the moment; insult or talk b###s, flag everyone else, or at least those that reciprocate.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1363 "2019-04-25T09:15:41Z")

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> [@Lugburz](#):
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> b###s

boobs?

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1364 "2019-04-25T09:16:44Z")

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> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> reciprocreate\*

Too late MWHAHAHHAHA!!

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1365 "2019-04-25T09:17:09Z")

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😃

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**Author:** ![HiHelloAloha\_Aivo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hihelloaloha_aivo/32/163064_2.png) [@HiHelloAloha\_Aivo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/HiHelloAloha_Aivo)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1366 "2019-04-25T16:57:16Z")

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I think he has a higher IQ twice than you. The fact that you are completely in his power on the forum proves that.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1367 "2019-04-25T16:58:23Z")

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Nah, it’s a game.  
I’ve played this game with many dozens.

So far I’ve always won.

😊

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**Author:** ![Taloris\_Aldercain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taloris_aldercain/32/317529_2.png) [@Taloris\_Aldercain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taloris_Aldercain)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/1368 "2019-04-25T21:19:57Z")

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So we’re all in agreement that ganking hasn’t gone far enough, and should enact Amarr-style Reclaiming efforts in the name of Emperor James315 and the New Order of Highsec?

In all honesty we should get wars on every structure-owning corp in highsec. Customs offices, fortizars, control towers, set them all to burn.

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