# Ganking has gone too far **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 2, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071 "2018-06-02T02:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/124 "2018-06-25T14:46:32Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Apparently not being a “victim” is entirely too much for some, blaming the rules of the game and the people playing by those rules for their own shortcomings and ineptitude. > > @Ima_Wreckyou @Dom_Arkaral would you care to explain to some of the people in this thread how a mere trader and industrialist like myself manages to avoid the attentions of the merry band of mischievous miscreants that you’re part of. That’s easy Jonah. You simply accept that this is part of the game and account for it while you play it. That is pretty much all you have to do. Maybe you can elaborate a bit how difficult it is for you to avoid attention and devastating losses. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/125 "2018-06-25T15:00:51Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Maybe you can elaborate a bit how difficult it is for you to avoid attention and devastating losses. That’s easy, don’t be stupid, lazy or greedy. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/126 "2018-06-25T15:03:16Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > don’t be stupid And that’s probably why those other two guys have such a hard time. Fortunately there are other games for them out there. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/127 "2018-06-25T16:22:15Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > And that’s probably why those other two guys have such a hard time. Fortunately there are other games for them out there. Yup, and Eve losing subscribers like that, but that will kill Eve and what would YOU play then ??? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/128 "2018-06-25T16:25:16Z")
EVE is not losing subscribers my dear. It is stable for over a year. It’s like every time you write something here it turns out to be completely and verifiably wrong. Must be your special super power. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/129 "2018-06-25T16:28:40Z")
OK you say this, I say that , we can going like that till winter, but we shall see, time will tell, time is ultimate judge. or as poet said: Que Sera, Sera Whatever will be, will be The future’s not ours to see Que Sera, Sera What will be, will be 😘 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/130 "2018-06-25T16:31:15Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > OK you say this, I say that , we can going like that till winter, > but we shall see, time will tell, time is ultimate judge. Sure, we can check in half a year and if EVE is still around you can contract me all your PLEX and go play DU. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/131 "2018-06-25T16:31:21Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > losing subscribers Arguably CCP started to lose subscribers when they decided to cater to people outside of their proven player demographic. When Eve was actually dangerous, as opposed to the pisspoor imitation of danger it has now, it verifiably had more active players. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/132 "2018-06-25T16:36:12Z")
dream on poor boy, earn your own PLEX 😘 ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/133 "2018-06-25T16:44:57Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > When Eve was actually dangerous, as opposed to the pisspoor imitation of danger it has now, it verifiably had more active players. If this claim is true, ccp can solve his problem in 5 minutes, just change conditions and make Eve dangerous again, problem solved !!! But no ccp did not do that and ccp instead have to fire few hundred people including whole Eve customer support. Why ? Because that is not a solution for ccp low income, and ccp must do some other painful moves to save himself and Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/134 "2018-06-25T16:46:43Z")
Yawn, yet again, no logic, no acknowledgement of reality, just Cartman statements about how what you want is more important than anything, more important than facts, growth, change, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/135 "2018-06-25T16:54:57Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > If this claim is true It’s not a claim, it is verifiable fact, any decline in numbers can be laid firmly at the door of CCP’s endeavours to further monetise Eve, starting in 2011 with microtransactions and thereafter continuing to dumb the game down to appeal to a more mainstream audience, while ignoring the fact that most of them will never play Eve because of its longstanding reputation of being a brutal no holds barred universe. They can’t roll it back because the players that have left are very unlikely to come back, and players like you who cannot accept Eve for what it is, despite hiding in an NPC corp for most of the time since 2009, will leave. We’re stuck with it now, all we can do is try to forestall any further shite decisions by CCP > [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > statements about how what you want is more important than anything Pot, kettle, blacker. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/136 "2018-06-25T16:58:49Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > They can’t roll it back because the players that have left are very unlikely to come back, and players like you who cannot accept Eve for what it is, despite hiding in an NPC corp for most of the time since 2009, will leave. And who will stay in Eve ??? ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/137 "2018-06-25T17:02:36Z")
VAE VICTIS ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/138 "2018-06-25T17:02:58Z")
If they continue down their current path, players like you who never understood the game in the first place; IMHO you would have been better off investing your time in World of Warcraft as it’s probably more suited to your skill and maturity level. ---
**Author:** ![Heera-o\_Helugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/heera-o_helugo/32/203799_2.png) [@Heera-o\_Helugo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Heera-o_Helugo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/139 "2018-06-25T17:03:38Z")
I am here to watch the ban hammer swing. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/140 "2018-06-25T17:07:00Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > If they continue down their current path, players like you who never understood the game in the first place; Nope, I need **more** for my money this was just one-time trial, and yes I am in WoW for last 15 years and giving my money to Blizzard gladly. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/141 "2018-06-25T17:07:53Z")
Go to Uedama, gank a jump freighter. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/142 "2018-06-25T17:10:22Z")
> [@mimi45](#): > > I need **more** for my money I need a nymphomaniac half my age, but I ain’t getting one so I have to put up with the wife instead. ---
**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-gone-too-far/80071/143 "2018-06-25T17:22:53Z")
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