# Ganking has not gone far enough **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [April 28, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522 "2019-04-28T02:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/161 "2019-05-01T11:12:35Z")
There is good and bad PvP in regards to how competent players are, and there is good and bad PvP in how much fun you are having. Competent players does not necessarily mean boat loads of SP and expensive ships, nor does an unorganized/drunk fleet mean you cannot have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/162 "2019-05-01T11:58:54Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > There is good and bad PvP in regards to how competent players are, and there is good and bad PvP in how much fun you are having. Competence is arbitrarily judgemental and doesn’t explain the difference between “good” and “bad” pvp sufficiently to explain whether there is a difference between good and bad pvp. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/163 "2019-05-01T12:06:24Z")
I already made my explanation as simple as possible so as to be accessible to a wide audience, but apparently some people still miss out. No issue, just wire 500m ISK to my account for a consultancy engagement and I will go into as much detail as needed. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/164 "2019-05-01T13:16:36Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > There is good and bad PvP in regards to how competent players are, and there is good and bad PvP in how much fun you are having. That’s how _you_ define it and there’s people who would agree with you. That does not change the fact that “good” and “bad” does not exist in the real world, outside of peoples heads. People nowadays are using language wrong. They use words without thinking or actually understanding them. They use “good”/“bad” in ways that make it completely unclear what they are talking about and project their ideas of what “good”/“bad” is onto everyone else. You have an idea of “good”. Someone else comes and declares that it’s “bad”. You two stupidly argue around about the reasons, believing that you **must** be _“right”_, which inevitably means that the other guy **must** be _“wrong”_. It’s crazily retarded to have such conversations because what is being argued about is which ones idea of imaginary “good”/“bad” is better. It’s a big part of the reason why people don’t get along with each other, why people are divided in general and why horrible groups like SJW are having such a huge fanbase. The amount of stupid in this behaviour is beyond acceptable, yet it is the norm. In regards to your example: Reality is that there are competent players and there are incompetent players. They are not “good” or “bad”, they’re competent or incompetent. The reason why this is so, and not how most people believe it to be, is because “good”/“bad” **does not describe reality** while “competent”/“incompetent” **does**. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/165 "2019-05-01T13:38:54Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > already made my explanation as simple as possible You didn’t explain anything actually. But that’s okay because perhaps you’re just bad at explaining things. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/166 "2019-05-01T13:40:37Z")
Give me 500m in ISK and I will argue semantics until the money runs out. Edit: offer open to Solstice Projekt and all other comers too. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/167 "2019-05-01T13:53:47Z")
Go argue with science, scientists and philosophers instead. > **[E-Prime](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime)** > > E-Prime (short for English-Prime or English Prime, sometimes denoted É or E′) is a version of the English language that excludes all forms of the verb to be, including all conjugations, contractions and archaic forms. > Some scholars advocate using E-Prime as a device to clarify thinking and strengthen writing. A number of other scholars have criticized E-Prime's utility. > D. David Bourland Jr., who had studied under Alfred Korzybski, devised E-Prime as an addition to Korzybski's general semantics... Come up to our level, it’s much better than down there with all the peasants who abuse language, their brains and themselves in the most primitive of ways. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/168 "2019-05-02T03:58:20Z")
Did you just advertise E-Prime by utilizing the contraction it’s? Come on now. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/169 "2019-05-02T15:20:51Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > That’s how _you_ define it and there’s people who would agree with you. That does not change the fact that “good” and “bad” does not exist in the real world, outside of peoples heads. > > People nowadays are using language wrong. They use words without thinking or actually understanding them. They use “good”/“bad” in ways that make it completely unclear what they are talking about and project their ideas of what “good”/“bad” is onto everyone else. > > You have an idea of “good”. Someone else comes and declares that it’s “bad”. You two stupidly argue around about the reasons, believing that you **must** be _“right”_ , which inevitably means that the other guy **must** be _“wrong”_ . Dude, what the hell does any of this drivel have to do with spaceships? You just go on and on and on in these forums. It is pretty unbelievable. Do you actually think anyone is reading all this crap? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/170 "2019-05-02T15:22:50Z")
I think from now on EVE should only use Esperanto. Mi gankuis la minindustrian ŝipon. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/171 "2019-05-02T15:56:54Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > You say it as if you could easily get rid of me by just going away, but that’s not the case. You can easily get rid of me _only_ if you go somewhere I’m not willing to go for some reason. Oh the good old times in local: Knowledgeminer: Hi! Me: Hi! And bye! Knowledgeminer: WTF it says you are in a wormhole. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/172 "2019-05-02T19:14:10Z")
Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Kaylee\_Rayl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaylee_rayl/32/130709_2.png) [@Kaylee\_Rayl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaylee_Rayl)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/173 "2019-05-03T15:03:39Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > This game needs more PvP. How about a special event (alike Burn Jita) but everywhere in high sec. Ask people to join your ranks, and give back a percentage of the loot (at the end of the party 😁). The goal is to get people to learn about this type of pvp, and maybe get a few new recruits? ---
**Author:** ![Kaylee\_Rayl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaylee_rayl/32/130709_2.png) [@Kaylee\_Rayl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaylee_Rayl)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/174 "2019-05-04T09:18:01Z")
I was trying to get around the many threads (as of late) for ‘Bumper + Flag’, then I thought maybe Gankers could make Bumper Stickers (with some wordings) and give away as merchandise. Anyhow o7 ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/175 "2019-05-04T15:41:53Z")
Who needs a bumper sitcker when you can get a RL mining permit: [http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/09/papers-please.html?m=1](http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/09/papers-please.html?m=1) ---
**Author:** ![Kaylee\_Rayl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaylee_rayl/32/130709_2.png) [@Kaylee\_Rayl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaylee_Rayl)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/176 "2019-05-05T08:19:25Z")
Just now thinking, maybe good to implement some kind of ‘border fee’ for any ship could be good business - not just mining, everyone else. Don’t be upset miners/pve’ers I just like a challenge now and then 😁 I remember ‘suddenly ninjas’ going into mission sites and asking ransom etc. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/177 "2019-05-06T15:21:42Z")
Warp gates between systems should be player constructed and destructible. Want to live in isolation? Then close the gates! Or open them up to free trade and collect taxes! ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/178 "2019-05-07T11:58:31Z")
What is the procedure and requirements for a corp to join CODE? Maybe you need to boost your numbers, your impact on mining seems to be negligible as all high sec is still filled with miners… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/179 "2019-05-07T14:17:42Z")
My apologies for the miners that have been bothering you, we will redouble our efforts to cleanse the region of all illicit mining activity. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522/180 "2019-05-07T15:28:20Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > all high sec is still filled with miners… Excellent! We can fire in any direction! 🇨🇳 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-has-not-gone-far-enough/155522.md?page=8)