# Ganking in highsec without wardec and not getting Concorded **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 13, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618 "2020-07-13T11:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pringles13579\_YourMomGay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pringles13579_yourmomgay/32/216962_2.png) [@pringles13579\_YourMomGay](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/pringles13579_YourMomGay)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/21 "2020-07-13T15:29:05Z")
kk thx just wanted to know how he managed to kill him without getting concorded didnt know that u can do that with zkillboard and not signing up ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/22 "2020-07-13T16:05:31Z")
> [@pringles13579\_YourMomGay](#): > > How is this guy ganking people in highsec but not losing any ships to concord. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/8/5/58522e325c53e0f72d74a92b60d70c7ab8148f90.jpeg "Queen - A Kind of Magic (Official Video Remastered)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p_1QSUsbsM) ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/23 "2020-07-13T23:29:46Z")
> [@pringles13579\_YourMomGay](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/e/1ea9a6e9c6a45df4a720aedfd2fac77a1f173f6b.jpeg) > > ### [Joshua Kusion | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/96098035/) > > Joshua Kusion: 5,357 ships destroyed and 3,309 ships lost. > > How is this guy ganking people in highsec but not losing any ships to concord. > He didnt wardec he killed people in our corp and corp is not in war damn you’re dumb op ---
**Author:** ![Clary\_Daemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clary_daemon/32/253040_2.png) [@Clary\_Daemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clary_Daemon)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/24 "2020-07-13T23:41:55Z")
I didn’t sign up for zkill, and my deaths still show up ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/25 "2020-07-13T23:45:04Z")
Someone sign up CONCORD on zkillboard. ---
**Author:** ![Deirdre\_Parud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deirdre_parud/32/215836_2.png) [@Deirdre\_Parud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deirdre_Parud)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/26 "2020-07-14T00:31:28Z")
For the people who are still flummoxed by this (…) Zkill can only know of a kill if either side uploaded it. This can be done manually or automatic and on pilot, corp or on alliance level. If neither side uploaded it (either manual or automatic) it won’t show, conversely just because YOU don’t upload it the other party might. It’s really not that difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Konchita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/konchita/32/191286_2.png) [@Konchita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Konchita)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/27 "2020-07-14T01:05:26Z")
Hey, it’s been a while since the last “Kusion is a dirty cheater” thread. OP gets a prize: ![officer_toilet_paper](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/f/ff8468bfde4587931be9e21da823bbcbb70026eb.png) ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/28 "2020-07-14T01:12:45Z")
ive actually shot that guy up alot, ive always seen concord come at him while i pinged as many of his fleet as i could. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/29 "2020-07-14T06:38:40Z")
Yes, because the people that killed you did or added it. I don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp. ---
**Author:** ![J\_Poll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/j_poll/32/228940_2.png) [@J\_Poll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/J_Poll)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/30 "2020-07-14T07:27:57Z")
Quite simple. If someone kills you and put it on Zkill, it will show up as a loss to you. It is not rocket science ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/31 "2020-07-14T11:54:54Z")
> [@Clary\_Daemon](#): > > I didn’t sign up for zkill, and my deaths still show up Think it through, one more time. ---
**Author:** ![Oxycon1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oxycon1/32/215188_2.png) [@Oxycon1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oxycon1)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/32 "2020-07-14T20:52:52Z")
Yes, of course, he has not streamed or recorded it for all to see. He is better than you and as such must be a dirty cheater. Please send me your things and biomass this is not a game for the weak-minded. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/33 "2020-07-14T20:59:15Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/d/ad164aa1a29b2da8718d341ad3f33b44ab6f8a05.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ravnik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravnik/32/514991_2.png) [@Ravnik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravnik)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/34 "2020-07-17T11:10:51Z")
Only 1000? I hope its buy one get one free… ---
**Author:** ![Kat\_Aisele](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kat_aisele/32/513450_2.png) [@Kat\_Aisele](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kat_Aisele)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/35 "2020-07-20T07:53:09Z")
People here act like it’s ridiculous that someone is complaining about a high-sec gank. In reality they just benefit from it somehow and are blowing smoke up their own rear ends. The mechanic is broke. “WeLl ThAt’S eVe. NoT eVeRyThInG iS 100% SaFe”. Yes, nothing is guaranteed and that’s how it should be but isn’t it all about finding the right balance to Risk vs Reward? A jump freighter pilot risks a ton of ISK for minimal reward. Meanwhile, a ganker gets extremely high reward for virtually no risk and smacking f1. You lose your disposable Talos & you buy some security tags with the Insane profit you make. It’s not right & it should be changed. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/36 "2020-07-20T08:04:59Z")
> [@Kat\_Aisele](#): > > It’s not right & it should be changed Be careful what you wish for. The only realistic way to fix your problem is oddly enough to increase the gank timer. Some other changes happening along side this. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/37 "2020-07-20T08:07:25Z")
> [@Kat\_Aisele](#): > > You lose your disposable Talos & you buy some security tags with the Insane profit you make. It’s not right & it should be changed. Every ship in Eve is suppose to be disposable. It’s literally the first of the [Golden Rules](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online). I don’t know why players expect complete safety or to be immune to the other players because they chose to fly a more expensive ship. Besides, a properly flown jump freighter _is_ 100% safe. Between jumping tether-to-tether and the ability to jump out of any gate camp in highsec, it is impossible to lose a jump freighter unless you make a serious mistake. That is something that isn’t right and should be changed. ---
**Author:** ![Kat\_Aisele](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kat_aisele/32/513450_2.png) [@Kat\_Aisele](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kat_Aisele)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/38 "2020-07-20T08:20:36Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Besides, a properly flown jump freighter _is_ 100% safe. Between jumping tether-to-tether and the ability to jump out of any gate camp in highsec, it is impossible to lose a jump freighter unless you make a serious mistake. That is something that isn’t right and should be changed. This isn’t true. Everyone says it’s 100% safe but the reality is that it isn’t. Got an insta-lock Webber? That’s great but if they’ve got an insta-lock frigate it comes down to nano-seconds of who clicked first. If it ends up being them then it’s over. Also what your proposing is a system where someone can be killed even if they do everything 100% perfectly? That doesn’t seem right. They can’t even shoot back… ---
**Author:** ![Kat\_Aisele](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kat_aisele/32/513450_2.png) [@Kat\_Aisele](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kat_Aisele)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/39 "2020-07-20T08:30:36Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Be careful what you wish for. The only realistic way to fix your problem is oddly enough to increase the gank timer. Buff JF’s EHP to the point that they have a fighting chance against a talo’s gang. Add X warp strength / skill level so they have a chance to jump out once talo’s start to pop. There are numerous options to make it a fair game ---
**Author:** ![Kat\_Aisele](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kat_aisele/32/513450_2.png) [@Kat\_Aisele](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kat_Aisele)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/40 "2020-07-20T08:33:01Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Between jumping tether-to-tether and the ability to jump out of any gate camp in highsec, it is impossible to lose a jump freighter unless you make a serious mistake What about the people who are getting popped before they can even load grid on the undock? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618.md?page=3)