# Ganking in highsec without wardec and not getting Concorded **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 13, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618 "2020-07-13T11:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/121 "2020-07-21T19:53:30Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > My suggestion of the allowing this module to be used by freighters is not to nerf ganking, I am looking to improve the game play for solo single character players in hisec. Full circle. seriously. “My suggestion of hitting you on the head with a stick isn’t to hurt you, it’s only to hear an interesting sound effect, lols!” No, it doesn’t work like that. If your suggestion has a set of very direct, specific consequences, then _all_ of those consequences are intended. Either admit to it, or find another solution that _only_ results in the effect you seek (that is, a solution that makes ganking more fun for the victim, without nerfing ganking). Good luck. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > It has no impact on the majority of ganks and gankers most of which gank smaller stuff, just the limited number of people who do freighter ganking and they can deal with it. Completely separate considerations here. A change isn’t judged only by how many players it affects. Removing all of the ISK and items from the top 10 richest players in the game, and redistributing it all to everyone else, would negatively affect only a small amount of players, and create a lot of enjoyment for everyone else. Should we do that too, then? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > For example they said that they could not deal with the loss of bumping and yet they are still ganking. Where and when did they say anything of that sort? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Tags make security status loss a nothing consequence apart from paying out easy to afford amounts of ISK. This was a big buff to ganking by the way. Did you ever stop to think about that? Then argue that the current tag mechanic needs a balancing pass, possibly by making the tags rarer (and by effect more expensive). And it wasn’t a buff to ganking so much as it was bringing ganking in line with other activities in which tasks you don’t want to do yourself could be outsourced to other players. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > Seriously, stop trying to mislead people. Everyone can see what you’re doing right now. > > You are the one misleading yourself, you expect people to do boring play, but not yourself, talk about entitled. If certain players find hauling to be boring, then they shouldn’t haul. I don’t expect anyone to do anything they don’t enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/122 "2020-07-21T20:05:39Z")
This one made me laugh: > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > And it wasn’t a buff to ganking so much as it was bringing ganking in line with other activities in which tasks you don’t want to do yourself could be outsourced to other players. So security status means nothing and the consequence means nothing. And this: > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Where and when did that say anything of that sort? All over the forums… > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Removing all of the ISK and items from the top 10 richest players in the game, and redistributing it all to everyone else, would negatively affect only a small amount of players, and create a lot of enjoyment for everyone else. Should we do that too, then? What? > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > If your suggestion has a set of very direct, specific consequences, then _all_ of those consequences are intended. Either admit to it, or find another solution that _only_ results in the effect you seek (that is, a solution that makes ganking more fun for the victim, without nerfing ganking). Good luck. Why would I do that. As I said very few people freighter gank, but those that do, gank a very large number. So on that basis make it so the larger number of players can have some fun with it. Nothing wrong with that, good game design. Seriously what a load of codswallop. Well you gave me a good laugh while moving some ships around, have fun with your entitled gameplay, I am out of here. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/123 "2020-07-21T20:32:17Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > This one made me laugh Feel free to laugh as much as you want, but if you have nothing better to add, then you’ve conceded the argument. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > Where and when did that say anything of that sort? > > All over the forums… Proof. “They said” is a _very specific_ accusation. Show me at least one instance of gankers saying that removing bumping would eliminate ganking. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > Removing all of the ISK and items from the top 10 richest players in the game, and redistributing it all to everyone else, would negatively affect only a small amount of players, and create a lot of enjoyment for everyone else. Should we do that too, then? > > What? Which part did you not understand? The question is fairly clear. We can do something that would improve the enjoyment of many at the expense of a few. Should we do it? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > If your suggestion has a set of very direct, specific consequences, then _all_ of those consequences are intended. Either admit to it, or find another solution that _only_ results in the effect you seek (that is, a solution that makes ganking more fun for the victim, without nerfing ganking). Good luck. > > Why would I do that. As I said very few people freighter gank, but those that do, gank a very large number. So on that basis make it so the larger number of players can have some fun with it. Nothing wrong with that, good game design. You’ll need to prove that your definition of fun is in line with their definition of fun. That is, however, aside from the argument I made, which you’ve ignored. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Seriously what a load of codswallop. Well you gave me a good laugh while moving some ships around, have fun with your entitled gameplay, I am out of here. 😛 Well, since you’ve lost the argument, there really isn’t a reason to stay, I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/124 "2020-07-22T07:00:40Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Ganking is bad gameplay currently. No, it is not. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/125 "2020-07-22T07:04:53Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > No, objectively the gameplay surrounding a gank is terrible. Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2020, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/126 "2020-07-22T07:05:12Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > This isn’t a subjective thing. Of course it is. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/128 "2020-07-24T18:01:51Z")
You sound very elite. Were you using the autopilot? ---
**Author:** ![Kali\_Kaline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kali_kaline/32/220186_2.png) [@Kali\_Kaline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kali_Kaline)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/129 "2020-07-24T18:03:34Z")
Mostly in the goon space. And they thought that I’m hiding, can you imagine that? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/130 "2020-07-24T18:12:23Z")
Looking at zkill, the loot fairy said no the last time he lost a ship in hisec; which was a completely unfitted Charon with 4 bill in cargo. 6 years and 4 months later he’s still salty about it. Elite player indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/133 "2020-07-24T21:21:10Z")
> [@Kali\_Kaline](#): > > As I said, my battle account is Max Arthie, a expletive deleted BRAVE pilot. That’ll be the Max Arthie that’s been sat in an NPC corp for over 3 years, and doesn’t appear to have ever been part of BRAVE.? I know people in BRAVE, and frankly they’d be embarrassed to be associated with the way you’re acting. ---
**Author:** ![Kali\_Kaline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kali_kaline/32/220186_2.png) [@Kali\_Kaline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kali_Kaline)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/134 "2020-07-24T21:30:05Z")
Maybe you are new. Most of the Brave account at that time needed to be in a NPC corp and I will NOT explain you why. Flash news: I’m already banned. All gentlemens on this forum got auto triggered and pulled the report button. See you … never. Have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/135 "2020-07-24T21:33:01Z")
> [@Kali\_Kaline](#): > > Maybe you are new Nah, been playing since before BRAVE was a thing. You have been weighed, measured and found wanting; just like your “claims”. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/136 "2020-07-24T21:34:01Z")
@Kali_Kaline @Jonah_Gravenstein I’m not taking sides in this argument, buuuuuuuuut plz stick 2 thread k thx (“last words” not required) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/137 "2020-07-24T21:37:39Z")
Fair enough, I just don’t like the word retarded being used to describe people, or being labelled as such. I hear enough of such things about my better halves non verbal autistic child. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/138 "2020-07-24T21:44:12Z")
He didn’t even _spell_ it correctly… ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/139 "2020-07-25T07:40:50Z")
> [@Kali\_Kaline](#): > > Here is what. I retired as military from null sec into a hi sec industrial. My first ship was ganked by a bunch of hobos at 3 jump of Jita. I could not even retaliate because they were those fukin bumpers, aka jihadist fuks. Can I call an army to fuk these hobos? Of course not … they are not an entity, they are the CCP hobo gang. At EVE fest they laugh of it … Calm down miner. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/140 "2020-07-25T07:42:08Z")
> [@Kali\_Kaline](#): > > As I said, my battle account is Max Arthie, a fuking BRAVE pilot. Now … next question? As a fellow BRAVE pilot: you should be ashamed of yourself! BRAVE pilots do not whine. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/141 "2020-07-25T07:44:59Z")
> [@Kali\_Kaline](#): > > Most of the Brave account at that time needed to be in a NPC corp and I will NOT explain you why. Bollocks. Utter bollocks. I have been in BRAVE for 7 years and at no time it was said your character should be in a NPC corp. Only when travelling through high sec it is wise to have a NPC character to circumvent the wardecs. You’re an embarrassment to the alliance. ---
**Author:** ![Mrs\_Peanutbutter\_Jellytime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mrs_peanutbutter_jellytime/32/221738_2.png) [@Mrs\_Peanutbutter\_Jellytime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mrs_Peanutbutter_Jellytime)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/143 "2020-08-07T18:39:09Z")
Calm down miner. The Kuson family is doing the lord’s work. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618/145 "2020-08-07T20:10:23Z")
> [@Kali\_Kaline](#): > > Sorry but only now I had read this … tardiness. How the FUK you were in Brave for 7 years when the Brave was 1 nor max 2 years old? EvE had like 8 years at that time. > > Also, my dear Nicolai, you should use a dildo since a real dick will not fill your mouth full of ■■■■. Try to calm down little man. > [@Kali\_Kaline](#): > > How the FUK you were in Brave for 7 years I _am_ in BRAVE for 7 years. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-in-highsec-without-wardec-and-not-getting-concorded/254618.md?page=8)