# Ganking is a rediculous word to use in EvE, it is PvP where Concord shoots the winner

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 27, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416 "2018-06-27T00:32:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cristl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cristl/32/13387_2.png) [@Cristl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cristl)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/22 "2018-06-27T12:00:53Z")

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We should be arsed to read a post complaining about vocabulary by someone who clearly cannot spell ridiculous or differentiate between “spy’s” and “spies”?

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/23 "2018-06-27T12:31:23Z")

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You are right. It is clearly spelled “spays”

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/24 "2018-06-27T12:38:46Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> You are right. It is clearly spelled “spays”

And what do you call them when they’re with you for a long time? … Old Spice.

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/25 "2018-06-27T12:52:28Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> Last time I tried to PvP you with a honourable wardec this happened: [Unable to Leave Corporation - a potential bug that is being exploited](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unable-to-leave-corporation-a-potential-bug-that-is-being-exploited/66368)

lol seriously?

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/26 "2018-06-27T13:11:48Z")

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Yeah, there was even a second thread [Anti-Ganking Ambush On CODE - The Bug Zapper - The Big Kill Count](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/anti-ganking-ambush-on-code-the-bug-zapper-the-big-kill-count/65758)

The mentioned corp that wardeced him is a one man corp of my scout alt _cough_ main _cough_, so it would have been easy for him to invite some of his ag friends to the fun. But he rather ran away and remains in an NPC corp since that day.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/27 "2018-06-27T13:25:50Z")

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ganking is baiting when the logis didn’t catch in time.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/28 "2018-06-28T00:59:22Z")

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The word “gank” is like catnip to millenials and generation z’ers, convincing them not to use it would be like trying to get them to stop eating avocado toast and vote, technically possible, but highly unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/29 "2018-06-28T07:56:48Z")

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It is semantic, but accurate, that suicide ganking and ganking be addressed with different terms, as they involve distinct different mechanics.

If it makes things more convenient, we could agree to refer to suicide ganking as “Sganking”, “Sanking” or some such thing so we dont have to spell out suicide everytime.

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On a personal level, after watching Sganker responses and threads for years, I think they deliberately want to ambiguate suicide ganking with ganking, as a misdirection in topic so suicide ganking doesnt get singled out for discussion.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/31 "2018-06-28T08:12:32Z")

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I think the abbreviation “AG” is adequate.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/32 "2018-06-28T08:22:30Z")

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He does that all the time, including suggesting new players to use gank magnets as mining ships and smartbombs in highsec, right here on the forums. I am beginning to wonder if it’s enough to get him banned for good, because there can not be any doubt that he has malicious intent.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/33 "2018-06-28T08:41:45Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> If it makes things more convenient, we could agree to refer to suicide ganking as “Sganking”, “Sanking” or some such thing so we dont have to spell out suicide everytime.

Good Idea. Also we should refer to your ■■■■ posting as “Sposting” or “Sosting” which would be really convenient.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/34 "2018-06-28T08:59:19Z")

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If ganking means losing ship to CONCORD, I think all gankers should be called losers. 😏

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/35 "2018-06-28T09:04:17Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > If it makes things more convenient, we could agree to refer to suicide ganking as “Sganking”, “Sanking” or some such thing so we dont have to spell out suicide everytime.
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> Good Idea. Also we should refer to your ■■■■ posting as “Sposting” or “Sosting” which would be really convenient.

I think the term was “Salvoshing”, which iirc, you and your ilk coined, largely in an attempt to misdirect blame onto little ole me rather than yourselves.

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Suicide ganking, and ganking, are two different things involving different mechanics.

That is a fact, both pragmatic and semantic.  
Deal with it.

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**Author:** ![Hipqo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hipqo/32/10696_2.png) [@Hipqo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hipqo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/36 "2018-06-28T10:40:47Z")

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Yeh, no. Thats just pvp in eve.  
Ganking is specificallyt refering to suiciding to concord in highsec, to kill people.  
Anything else is just pvp. Simple as that.

We dont gank people in wormholes, we just pvp.

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**Author:** ![Hipqo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hipqo/32/10696_2.png) [@Hipqo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hipqo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/37 "2018-06-28T10:42:04Z")

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You consent when you undock, so theres no “PvP without consent” in eve.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/38 "2018-06-28T10:52:25Z")

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> [@Hipqo](#):
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> Yeh, no. Thats just pvp in eve.  
> Ganking is specificallyt refering to suiciding to concord in highsec, to kill people.  
> Anything else is just pvp. Simple as that.

Sorry, but the term ganking is used all over the place. What you say does not reflect reality merely your opinion.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/39 "2018-06-28T11:03:43Z")

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People used also different terms to distinguish how you kill:  
Rapid killing (using alpha) - blapping  
Blapping someone in high sec and CONCORD blaps you - ganking

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/40 "2018-06-28T11:38:34Z")

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Ganking is when you engage a target with superior numbers. This happens throughout EVE.

Suicide ganking is when you illegally engage a target in HS, with superior numbers (as results in suicide by CONCORD).

Its that simple.

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The exact etymological root of the term “ganking” is unclear, but speculated to have first occurred in WC3 multiplay or the Dota mod derived from it.

Probably it is a contraction/bastardization of “gang-kill”.

Ie: The act of ganging up to kill a specific target.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/41 "2018-06-28T11:53:21Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Sanking

Spanking please  
Then we’ll have agreed on one thing 😂

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/42 "2018-06-28T11:55:46Z")

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Call suicide ganking whatever you want, as long as its distinct from ganking, which it is on a mechanical and semantic level.

Ganking and suicide ganking are not the same thing.

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