# Ganking is a rediculous word to use in EvE, it is PvP where Concord shoots the winner **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 27, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416 "2018-06-27T00:32:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/387 "2018-07-19T17:12:40Z")
No, ‘my’ definition of mathematics was actually provided by mathematicians, which makes it the only definition that matters. Who else to define it but those who practice it? Don’t talk to me as if you know me, or my experiences, it’s incredibly arrogant and you are revealing yourself to be an actual pretentious arsehole. I don’t have the time or patience for your post-modernist anti-intellectual crap. Maybe if you hadn’t dropped out of high school, you might have something to do with yourself other than post on the EVE-O forums all-day every-day. ■■■■ off now, cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/388 "2018-07-19T17:13:26Z")
> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#): > > No, ‘my’ definition of mathematics was actually provided by mathematicians, which makes it the only definition that matters. Who else to define it but those who practice it? Don’t talk to me as if you know me, or my experiences, it’s incredibly arrogant and you are revealing yourself to be an actual pretentious arsehole. Well, I’m a Mathematician and I see it as a science. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/389 "2018-07-19T17:14:20Z")
No, you’re not, because if you were one, you wouldn’t capitalise the word ‘mathematician’. Actual mathematicians hate that. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/390 "2018-07-19T17:15:25Z")
> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#): > > No, you’re not, because if you were one, you wouldn’t capitalise the word ‘mathematician’. Actual mathematicians hate that. I am and you’re a Hater. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/391 "2018-07-19T17:21:37Z")
![no-u-5aa3d1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/2/32d33f3d565c00f70e809b15e69cbd21b8615255.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/392 "2018-07-19T17:27:01Z")
Whitehound is a major in Wikipedia research 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Luttrell\_Khan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_luttrell_khan/32/148357_2.png) [@Marcus\_Luttrell\_Khan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Luttrell_Khan)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/393 "2018-07-19T18:37:03Z")
It seems I have started a tangent… ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/394 "2018-07-20T04:42:51Z")
Mathematics is a body/field of science onto itself. That science was what facilitated the use of mathematics in other sciences as a tool and/or language. It didnt appear from nowhere, was created (or discovered, depending on how you see it) using scientific method and is being further investigated, tested and developed as a science, using the scientific method. The title for mathematics as “Queen of Sciences” is apt, as so many other sciences (if not all) rely on its method/body, at the least for statistical analysis and processes of data crunching. * * * Back to topic: Yes, suicide ganking is a form of ganking, but it is a distinct form with additional conditions. If context makes it clear that it is suicide ganking being discussed, then abbreviating it to “ganking” is fine. But they are not the same thing. Since so many seem to think you can define words however you want, Ill go ahead and refer to suicide ganking as “ **s-ganking** ” from now on. Id suggest a system where a letter prefix indicates the type of ganking in question. For example, cyno/hotdropping could be referred to as **“c-ganking”**. ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Luttrell\_Khan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_luttrell_khan/32/148357_2.png) [@Marcus\_Luttrell\_Khan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Luttrell_Khan)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/395 "2018-07-20T14:17:47Z")
I believe it is just called hot dropping. It will likely stay that way. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/396 "2018-07-20T15:28:35Z")
He just loves to a-gank threads 😂 ---
**Author:** ![holdmybeer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/holdmybeer/32/147512_2.png) [@holdmybeer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/holdmybeer)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/397 "2018-07-27T16:08:40Z")
I’m just here for the tears ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/398 "2018-07-27T16:54:48Z")
Just when I wondered why I even looked on the forums, because everyone was gone. And OMG here you all are! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/399 "2018-07-27T18:25:38Z")
Oscar here, is ganking this thread with overwhelming cuteness. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/9/f9cafbdac6443813bc868fc5901001f8b7c17291.jpg) WB Ramona, I hope you left Billy in his cage. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/400 "2018-07-28T16:22:36Z")
No doubt we can get a pedant to extend this thread by another 100 posts on whether Oscar is cat-ganking or picture-ganking and whether that is valid ganking or not ganking at all. Now if someone trains Oscar to fly a catalyst great things could happen. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/401 "2018-07-28T18:22:17Z")
Cats are like the Amarr in one respect, they too have slaves to do the dirty work. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/402 "2018-07-29T15:52:46Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > If context makes it clear that it is suicide ganking being discussed, then abbreviating it to “ganking” is fine. Okay, well since we all know that suicide ganking is the _real_ topic of discussion in every thread, then the context is always clear. Thanks Salvos! #Mostrelevantallianceinthegame ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/403 "2018-07-30T07:25:36Z")
People who are excessively violent in video games and try to mask the violence over by using rules from the game do have an increased aggressive behavior out of game because they cannot get enough of the same stimulus in the real world that the game allows them to have. The American Psychological Association observed in an August 2015 policy statement that research demonstrated a link “between violent video game use and both increases in aggressive behavior … and decreases in prosocial behavior, empathy, and moral engagement.” Doctor’s have proven it. > **[Do video games lead to violence?](https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/health/video-games-and-violence/index.html)** > > "I'm hearing more and more people saying the level of violence on video games is really shaping young people's thoughts," Trump said. But some experts' findings disagree. ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/404 "2018-07-30T07:29:34Z")
So what does that tell us about all ya own posts where ya’rr pukin’ out ya hate ‘bout gankers? Ya gonna edit all ya posts now before we start droppin’ them in here and everywhere else? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/405 "2018-07-30T08:15:58Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > The American Psychological Association observed in an August 2015 policy statement that research demonstrated a link “between violent video game use and both increases in aggressive behavior … and decreases in prosocial behavior, empathy, and moral engagement.” > > Doctor’s have proven it. It’s far from proven and for every study you can publish that shows a link, I can link a counter study that shows no link. Here for example is a couple to counter the view: [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-018-0031-7](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-018-0031-7) [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875952117300113?via%3Dihub](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1875952117300113?via%3Dihub) Now I may be a little cynical these days about published studies. Before I left research, it was becoming more common for papers to be published too early (before all the necessary research was conducted), often based on sloppy science and its amazing how often the findings were somehow in line with the agendas of funding bodies, especially in applied science. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/406 "2018-07-30T12:22:40Z")
Thanks! Yes he is still there And very much “Alive” [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416.md?page=21)