# Ganking is a rediculous word to use in EvE, it is PvP where Concord shoots the winner **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 27, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416 "2018-06-27T00:32:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/83 "2018-07-01T17:10:45Z")
I agree with you. I consider a single Catalyst killing a single mining barge to be a gank. I was just pointing out that Zkill (which everyone uses) doesn’t consider it to be a gank with less than 5 ships vs 1. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/84 "2018-07-01T17:23:36Z")
Perhaps one could find a new definition, which helps the victim to understand their situation better. Gank - The impulse to express discomfort over a loss of a ship under unexpected circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/85 "2018-07-01T20:09:21Z")
Exactly, the word gank is millenial / tween candy. ---
**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/86 "2018-07-01T20:52:46Z")
Well, it mostly means “attacking targets that are not capable of defending themselves due to an overwhelming difference in power or numbers”. So it makes sense in the scenario of even 1 catalyst against a hauler. That’s not supposed to be a fair fight. Of course, in other MMOs where there is barely a point in doing this this might have a negative connotation. But in games where there is a point, like MOBAs or Eve, avoiding getting ganked is part of pvp, and you usually get rewarded for doing so, even if not directly. Of course, it’s also the duty of game designers to make sure there is counterplay to ganking, simply because if there isn’t nobody would do activities that makes them vulnerable to it. Eve seems to have it even for haulers, so I say we can talk about ganks and also not see it as a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/87 "2018-07-01T21:04:47Z")
If you whined less about ganking and stayed off autopilot and fit your ships correctly you might not have to worry about ganking, but since posting a new post daily about the subject instead of playing the game you make yourself a target to the rest of the sharks in the sea… ---
**Author:** ![Ragionier\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ragionier_sunji/32/56713_2.png) [@Ragionier\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ragionier_Sunji)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/88 "2018-07-01T21:08:41Z")
Ok in all seriousness we need to talk about this. Eve online is the only game I know of where the tutorial actively tries to get the players killed by INSISTING they use autopilot. Is it to teach the players to “trust nobody, not even the tutorial”? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/89 "2018-07-01T21:12:40Z")
Probably just game designers who don’t play their own game. But yeah, the autopilot thing is extremely stupid There are players now that think this is the only way to get around. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/90 "2018-07-01T21:15:43Z")
Fortunately there are more than enough pilots willing to show them the error of their ways… ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/91 "2018-07-01T21:16:42Z")
It’s a public service ---
**Author:** ![Estuary\_Algaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/estuary_algaert/32/27420_2.png) [@Estuary\_Algaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Estuary_Algaert)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/92 "2018-07-02T14:01:55Z")
Honest question. I had always used Gank or Ganker to describe what we do, here at Petulant. Having come from other games where there was a free for all environment my understood definition of “gank” was from there… so… based on the following… > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Ganking is when you engage a target with superior numbers. This happens throughout EVE. > > Suicide ganking is when you illegally engage a target in HS, with superior numbers (as results in suicide by CONCORD). > > Its that simple. > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You cant “gank” someone alone, or when you have less players in the engagement than them. When a solo pilot, in HS, engages multiples at the same time or a single, with intent to destroy and accepting CONCORD will do their thing; No alts, no bumpers. What is that called? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/93 "2018-07-02T20:25:30Z")
> [@Estuary\_Algaert](#): > > When a solo pilot, in HS, engages multiples at the same time or a single, with intent to destroy and accepting CONCORD will do their thing; No alts, no bumpers. What is that called? ganking please ignore Salvos as he doesn’t know what he’s talking about 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Famine\_Aligher\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/famine_aligher_ri/32/393186_2.png) [@Famine\_Aligher\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Famine_Aligher_ri)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/94 "2018-07-02T21:07:52Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > ganking > > please ignore Salvos as he doesn’t know what he’s talking about 😉 I concur. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/95 "2018-07-02T23:26:44Z")
Wait a minute, the tutorial now instructs you to use auto pilot? I must tip my hat to the master level trolls at CCP Games. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/96 "2018-07-03T05:59:48Z")
Yeah, the first time you have to go to another system it tells you to set the destination and press the autopilot button. It never mentions that you can warp to zero on the gate and I have heard several times from new players now that they found out way way later about that. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/97 "2018-07-03T06:02:53Z")
Very interesting, thanks Ima. Next thing you know they’ll have the tutorial telling noobs to mine without a permit! 😯 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/98 "2018-07-03T06:40:40Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Chicken](#): > > Next thing you know they’ll have the tutorial telling noobs to mine without a permit! 😯 Now that would be concerning 😱 . Thinking of it they should also change the default bio and add at least some praise to James 315. Sane defaults are always important. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/99 "2018-07-03T06:45:56Z")
ITT: Snowflakes that cant accept a definition. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/100 "2018-07-03T06:50:14Z")
☝ special snowflake who can’t handle how words change meaning and has to obsess about absolutes. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/101 "2018-07-03T07:08:49Z")
Spoken like a true snowflake. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416/102 "2018-07-03T07:17:53Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > > > Are you crazy to summon him @Whitehound ? > > Let there be @Salvos_Rhoska … I summon thee all feared and all powerful @Salvos_Rhoska … for he shall he breath his definition down our necks! 👹 Well, hope you are happy with the result, you can’t say you weren’t warned. Just a minor quibble: he will be breathing up to our shoelaces at best. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-rediculous-word-to-use-in-eve-it-is-pvp-where-concord-shoots-the-winner/85416.md?page=6)