# Ganking is a valid form of gameplay, just like PvP everywhere else in EVE Online, and it takes practice to get good at, more inside **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 23, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206 "2026-02-23T17:34:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2026, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/267 "2026-03-07T23:55:52Z")
How long does it take to disassemble this zero tank Golem: [Golem | Nadia Otichoda | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/133870506/) 8-9 seconds…? Zero tank golem in the 0.5 security system… high LP - high risk… knew what is doing. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2026, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/268 "2026-03-07T23:57:18Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > I guess your lot is fine with killing non-combatants during wartime. In EVE there _are_ no non-combatants. A person mining ore is ultimately involved in the supply chain for war. You don’t get to provide the raw materials for warships and then whine when your smelting factory gets bombed. Miners are not mining daisies in outer space…and making them into nice daisy chains for the Teletubbies…they are mining the very materials that make the combat ships. There is no war in history in which the supply chain is immune. ---
**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2026, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/269 "2026-03-07T23:58:27Z")
The funny thing… that pilot lost two Golems in the same 0.5 system…. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/270 "2026-03-08T00:16:10Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Yep. It’s not like miners don’t have time to come up with a strategy while they’re just sitting there shooting rocks! They have all the time in the world to figure out how to not be a victim. I was in 0.5 Aurcel yesterday. Massive asteroids the size of Manhattan. Just 3 people in the system. Just 3 jumps from a system like Vittenyn where one can sell the ore. It’s right next to the lowsec route to Minmatar space, so one has to watch out for attacks from that way. Safety visit the system once in a blue moon. Yet there was not a single other person mining there. I had the place to myself. EVE is literally _full_ of such systems. ---
**Author:** ![Asveron\_Durr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asveron_durr/32/473468_2.png) [@Asveron\_Durr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asveron_Durr)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/271 "2026-03-08T00:41:46Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > I guess your lot is fine with killing non-combatants during wartime. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/0/0/300e25d73c2c48f6cd16d4e98a67ea75e51c6cf3.jpeg ""You can't take no pictures laying down there sonny!"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3fA6uAc9dU) ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/272 "2026-03-08T00:44:12Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > I guess your lot is fine with killing non-combatants during wartime. My opponent after I take his queen: “Huh… I guess some people just love violence against women.” Getting a bit pathetic there, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Meltdown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blue_meltdown/32/451856_2.png) [@Blue\_Meltdown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blue_Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2026, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/273 "2026-03-08T12:00:07Z")
Would just take a little adjustment to the fit to make it so much better, besides throwing the 3 small tractorbeams away for a mtu. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/274 "2026-04-19T03:56:04Z")
But not bumping as it seems bumping is boring as per her latest. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/275 "2026-04-19T04:04:39Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > I feel like you should specify you’re talking about high sec suicide ganking. Which is an entirely different play style vs how PvP works in the rest of the game. > > Also, as an outlaw, you can still dock up in a pod, and since suicide gankers rarely intend for their ships to survive after they land their gank… it’s only called ganking in highsec. everywhere else its just called pvp. I dont understand why there is a distinction but there is. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/276 "2026-04-19T04:41:31Z")
> [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > dont understand why there is a distinction but there is. Because Ganking is not real PvP ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/277 "2026-04-19T16:08:03Z")
what exactly constitutes “real pvp” in your eyes? pvp means player versus player. ganking involves 2(+) players. 1 trying to kill, 1 trying to survive. what isnt pvp about that? ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/278 "2026-04-19T20:21:08Z")
Shrugs, I don’t know as I am just a miner! ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/279 "2026-04-19T20:24:11Z")
> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#): > > I am just a miner! Miners are half of the foundation for all conflicts in this game. What you mine will eventually turn into combat ships, modules or ammo. What you produce, if you do industry, will be used to fight other players at some point. Miners are the first step of the required logistics chain for any war. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/280 "2026-04-19T21:02:01Z")
Industry experts might question whether what they produce actually effects the outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/282 "2026-04-19T23:42:48Z")
> [@Remi\_Lacroix](#): > > Miners are the first step of the required logistics chain for any war. @ all miners; This means you are participating in pvp whether you want to admit it or not. You are not an innocent bystander. You choose to be weak, you choose to be afk, you choose to imagine you’re playing a different video game. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/288 "2026-04-20T02:42:10Z")
removed several off topic posts. ---
**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/289 "2026-04-20T04:03:47Z")
![calm down miner](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/7/1/7710c37a6f66969e49cde14ff5cfe508886137dd.jpeg) Flagged as an ad, really? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/290 "2026-06-21T05:55:30Z")
This was an interesting read… sorta. ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/514743_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/291 "2026-08-27T13:19:16Z")
Yeah… ---
**Author:** ![Kuroda\_Toshio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuroda_toshio/32/510019_2.png) [@Kuroda\_Toshio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuroda_Toshio)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/292 "2026-08-27T17:18:49Z")
Anything dropped from the ganked ship should be confiscated by CONCORD and available for pickup by the hapless victim for a nominal holding fee at the nearest CONCORD depot. It’s just good casework by CONCORD and provides an easy isk sink for the game overall. You’re welcome, Oz. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206.md?page=15)