# Ganking is a valid form of gameplay, just like PvP everywhere else in EVE Online, and it takes practice to get good at, more inside

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**Created:** [February 23, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206 "2026-02-23T17:34:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/516991_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2026, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/475 "2026-11-01T17:40:53Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> And i said not my alt

now you are talking

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/476 "2026-11-01T17:42:35Z")

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> [@Drosera\_Binata](#):
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> But i WANT to be your trophy wife…

I had no clue about that…you never asked…

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/516991_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2026, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/477 "2026-11-01T17:56:34Z")

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actually, i dont, but i see that you are actually smart enough to have noticed how to alter ones words @Uta_Asmai , color me impressed, and you talk like a glitbiter, if you dont know what that means, look it up as a starwars term

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**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/516991_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2026, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/478 "2026-11-01T18:04:12Z")

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and if i am your alt then tell me my wallet balance right now, if you dont answer correctly in one hour you have as good as confirmed you are lying about me being your alt.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/515697_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2026, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/479 "2026-11-01T20:53:03Z")

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More importantly where are the KPI’s for Gankers?

Stop hiding the truth!

Miners have a valid mining ledger yet gankers are left without any form of key performance indicators.

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**Author:** ![Coffe\_s\_Babe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coffe_s_babe/32/515569_2.png) [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coffe_s_Babe)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/480 "2026-11-02T00:19:10Z")

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> [@James\_Fuchs](#):
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> Ganking is not a problem. It is perfectly fine to gank, just as it is to gatecamp in low-sec, or to bubble gates in null-sec.

Why do you say that?

Why do you lump gatecamping and bubbled gates in null-sec together with high-sec ganking? The first two are normal mechanics; high-sec ganking is different.

High-sec ganking is you, the high-sec ganker, dictating how others should play the game. You make other players play the game the way you want.

What impression will this game make on new players? They want to run some missions in high-sec with a brand-new ship they struggled to afford. Then you show up, blow it up, and laugh in their face: “HAHAHA! Serves you right for playing the game.”

What kind of new-player retention do you expect this game to have if you project your playstyle onto others?

This game is now run by multiboxers with a gazillion accounts each. You see 20,000 players online, but a lot of those are multiboxers (one person playing 4–10 accounts at the same time). Do the math: the real numbers are much, much lower.

You don’t ask yourself about the state and future of the game. You don’t ask yourself why player numbers have dropped over the years, or why they haven’t increased significantly ([EVE-Offline :: EVE-Online Status monitor](https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility)).

It’s not always about the developers (CCP/FC), and it’s not always about new features added to the game. A big part of the game’s success is the community playing it, and how that community plays.

When high-sec gankers project their playstyle onto others for the LULZ, they put the brakes on someone’s progress through the game (a new player grinds content to finally afford a shiny new cruiser or battlecruiser, only for you to blow it up for the LULZ). Of course that player will lose interest and won’t feel the same joy logging back in. Why should log back in, if it’s “normal mechanics” as you say.

If a new player loses ship after ship to high-sec gankers, why should they keep spending time and money on EVE Online when they could spend it on another game?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/481 "2026-11-02T00:40:44Z")

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Plot Twist: Ganking improves player retention…

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/482 "2026-11-02T00:53:20Z")

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> [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](#):
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> Why do you lump gatecamping and bubbled gates in null-sec together with high-sec ganking? The first two are normal mechanics; high-sec ganking is different.

My question still remains. Why HS Gankers doesn’t attack goonswarms. If they don’t gank Goonswarms means their just a lap dog of the goons. For ex: Kusion in Uedama aint a HS ganker but a goonswarm pet.

HS Gankers should aim High and make HS their SOV not some kind of Goons bitches..

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/483 "2026-11-02T01:40:37Z")

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Yeah sure and Anna Nichole married for love

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/484 "2026-11-02T01:43:36Z")

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I ganked Goonswarm today.

> **[Heron | Atioth Server Node | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/139608775/)**
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> Atioth Server Node (School of Applied Knowledge) lost their Heron in Ikao (The Citadel). Final Blow by Aiko Danuja (Tsundere Death Squad) flying solo in a Coercer. Total Value: 3,486,389.16 ISK

They run a lot of accounts, but they are not very good at the game. All they can do is camp one system. 😴 Any miner can PLEX 20-30 accounts, but that doesn’t mean they are able to use them effectively. So of you want to antigank, just gank their scouts - it’s easy. If they can’t see anything, they can’t gank. 🤔

If you aren’t doing this, if you are just crying about ganking without actually trying, then you are the reason gankers are successful. 👩🏻‍🏫 If you actually make the effort to fight them, you will find that you can get results, and the [Antiganking Bounty Fund](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/antiganking-bounty-fund-get-paid-to-antigank/514016)will actually pay you to do it. 🥳

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/485 "2026-11-02T02:06:12Z")

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I guess I may do something but not as a top gun pilot but George Soros style against those who pretends to be HS Gankers but actually an arm of Nullsec.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/486 "2026-11-02T02:11:25Z")

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> [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](#):
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> Why do you say that?
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> Why do you lump gatecamping and bubbled gates in null-sec together with high-sec ganking? The first two are normal mechanics; high-sec ganking is different.
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> High-sec ganking is you, the high-sec ganker, dictating how others should play the game. You make other players play the game the way you want.
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> What impression will this game make on new players?

What utterly bizarre ‘logic’.

The _only_ thing that differentiates a lowsec 0.4 system and a highsec 0.5 system is that Concord show up in the latter. So how can the stuff in lowsec be ‘normal mechanics’ yet the stuff in highsec somehow isn’t ? Especially given that Concord response times are gradated in highsec such that its clear that it is intended for Concord to have something to _respond to_ !

The impression on new players ? It’s a tough game. It is **supposed** to be a tough game. Farmville is that ----\> way.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/487 "2026-11-02T02:18:05Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Plot Twist: Ganking improves player retention…

Yup. Its the moment when a new player who was about to leave the game out of sheer boredom of staring at a mining laser and pretending he’s conquering the universe…suddenly gets shown that there _is_ some excitement to the game after all !

Gankers are rescuing people from just quietly slipping into the ocean of oblivion otherwise known as ‘mining’…pretending they ‘play EVE’…while AFK watching NETFLIX. It is a thankless service that gankers mostly just get abuse for.

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/488 "2026-11-02T05:19:29Z")

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> [@Coffe\_s\_Babe](#):
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> Why do you lump gatecamping and bubbled gates in null-sec together with high-sec ganking? The first two are normal mechanics; high-sec ganking is different.
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> High-sec ganking is you, the high-sec ganker, dictating how others should play the game. You make other players play the game the way you want.

What is an interdiction bubble or a tackle but one player telling another they’re not allowed to warp here? How is lowsec and nullsec PvP any more consensual than highsec PvP? You undocked, you consented. If you didn’t intend to interact with other players you would have stayed in Exordium.

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/489 "2026-11-02T10:20:33Z")

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> [@Drosera\_Binata](#):
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> and if i am your alt then tell me my wallet balance right now, if you dont answer correctly in one hour you have as good as confirmed you are lying about me being your alt.

Arguing with yourself about your wallet? Left shoulder devil, right shoulder angel? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/490 "2026-11-02T10:22:21Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Plot Twist: Ganking only lets player ragequitting explode and should not happen in highsec which should be safe…

You are right with that…thank you… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/491 "2026-11-02T11:08:44Z")

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The issue that you completely fail to address is that rage quitters are simply a tiny but vocal minority. For every 1 person who rage quits because they got ganked…99 just quietly leave _because they were bored_, and you never hear from them.

That totally skews the perception of EVE. People like you come on and rant about the evils of ganking…totally mis-representing the true state of things. CCP-FCs own stats clearly show that only 1% of players are ganked within first 2 weeks. You totally ignore the 13 times higher amount that are killed by some other means, and the 85 who are not killed at all. And then pretend you care about player retention. Your pretence at caring is a sham. These and other stats prove so…

 ![slide2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/e/0e44741fa5e6d55b767f788cd876a5e7de38fa13.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/492 "2026-11-02T11:11:54Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> Your pretence at caring is a sham.

no…this is called ‘common sense’…something every ganker and pvp’ler fails to have because they see themselves only as the ‘server elite’ that has to set the pace of the game(and deserve ANY AND EVERY benefit the devs have in their pocket) instead of what they are…exact the insignificant loud mouthed minority you claim rage quitters to be…

What an own goal this was… 😛

Beautiful…

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/493 "2026-11-02T11:18:25Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> no…this is called ‘common sense’

You wouldn’t know what common sense was if it fell from the sky and left a 200 mile wide crater around you. You are just another virtue signaling ’ think of the children !’ ranter getting your narcissism dose for the day…when in reality you don’t give a damn about noobs.

When’s the last time you donated even 1 ISK to a noob…eh ?

Your entire white knight facade is a sham.

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**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/494 "2026-11-02T11:48:57Z")

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Whoa, okay, let’s lower the pitchforks, haha! Look, am I a Goon? Maybee, the bee logo is like super cute, so sue me! Do I gate camp? I prefer the term ‘involuntary spatial checkpoint inspector. Shooting fish in a barrel is tots fun’ And the Nullsec-to-ganker pipeline? Listen, the economy is rough and I need hobbies! Sometimes you just visit high-sec and… accidentally overheat your Catalysts. It happens!

Please don’t hang me, my overlords have capital ships to feed!

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