# Ganking is a valid form of gameplay, just like PvP everywhere else in EVE Online, and it takes practice to get good at, more inside **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 23, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206 "2026-02-23T17:34:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/516991_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/682 "2026-11-04T00:55:56Z")
YOU MUST MINE! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/683 "2026-11-04T00:57:51Z")
Eeew gross, I just finished robbing an ess bank 100mill cut less then an hour game play I’ll never go back to mining again ---
**Author:** ![Drosera\_Binata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drosera_binata/32/516991_2.png) [@Drosera\_Binata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drosera_Binata)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/684 "2026-11-04T00:59:24Z")
and i just soloed a guristas scout outpost, but how do i rob ESS banks and do i get pure isk of equipment? done three escalations in 3 days lol 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/685 "2026-11-04T01:04:23Z")
@Uriel_the_Flame My new upgraded personalized shield mod 😄 ![Screenshot 2026-11-03 195805](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/2/2/a22f9a88b0ae80b9ed593bdf136df4eda75148ed.png) > [@Drosera\_Binata](#): > > where can i get one of those? It takes the willingness to dump all your skill points into shields, more money than you have common sense, and a lack of concern for how much you overdid defense. But hey, what else are you going to do with your time while mining? Personally, I don’t recommend it. That booster is on my Orca BTW. They always told me to never ever use expensive mods. So I used expensive mods. There’s no such thing as a fair fight in EvE Online so if no one is attacking you, it’s because they can’t win. If someone does attack you, it’s because they already know they can win. Every now and then though, someone does attack and lose because they left their combat scanner at home. Those days are incredibly rare, but super fun! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/686 "2026-11-04T02:17:02Z")
How was No Man’s Star Citizen? ---
**Author:** ![Asveron\_Durr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asveron_durr/32/473468_2.png) [@Asveron\_Durr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asveron_Durr)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/687 "2026-11-04T02:37:59Z")
Holy CRAP…is someone spends a year getting into exhumers…they need to quit the game right now…hell it only takes 15 days to get into Indy command ships… ---
**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/688 "2026-11-04T02:52:04Z")
I was probably thinking of barges, then crystals for every ore, then refinement then you need command ships then your working on ice drones then mining drones don’t forget salvage oh and salvage drones ooop let’s do gas now gotta get those skills too. A ton of SP probably around 2 years worth if your trying to get those V skills ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/689 "2026-11-04T03:53:23Z")
Why do I need to care about new Players being shot in HS? Is this about moral superiority? Players don’t care if newbies die in low or null but care if they die in HS? wow. is this some kind of propaganda against Highsec Players? Most newbies were shot by Null players invading HS. Blame it to Null.. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/690 "2026-11-04T04:07:46Z")
@Jason_Kusion He said you can’t win against his EHP.. Goons are weak gankers they can’t even handle blackflag. 😋 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/691 "2026-11-04T04:59:50Z")
Yes, I’ve never understood why killing new players is ‘bad’. Who cares about noobs? ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/692 "2026-11-04T05:54:43Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Who cares about noobs? In my newbie days. CODE didn’t gank me, It was null players who did that to me in HS, Lowsec and nullsec. Revenge is sweet when some of its leaders lost and runaway. ---
**Author:** ![Lusty\_Lucy\_Cybaritic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lusty_lucy_cybaritic/32/516328_2.png) [@Lusty\_Lucy\_Cybaritic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lusty_Lucy_Cybaritic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/693 "2026-11-04T06:03:59Z")
Hello James, Space miner and CEO of BRUCE here, I agree ganking is a legit thing to do in PVP but let’s remind people what it is; > **gank** _verb_ - To kill, ambush, or defeat with little effort; used in online games. There are two very basic ways to achieve this; gate camping is an ambush on the other side of gate, duck blind is another is remaining cloaked in an asteroid field and waiting for an unarmed mining vessel to enter the field. I am certain there are other methods, but these seem to be the most common used in EVE. Many people criticize mining as being immensely boring and tedious, but I am doing something. I seek gas or ore then start the long collection process. While both gate campers and duck blind hunters need to patiently wait doing nothing. I find ganking to be more boring than mining. Assuming no ganker show up, we still get the occasional NPC pirate. BRUCE was set up to train new people how to avoid gankers in general. Unfortunately they seldom ask us for educational instruction. They prefer to whine about losing their ships instead of learning the game. BRUCE is not a recruitment center or protection racket, we gift them a new mining vessel normally a venture or a pioneer with basic mining equipment and gas scoops. After that, we seldom see them for the lessons. With all that said, the members of BRUCE are not anti-gank, we are instructors. Have you or others considered the notion of setting up a ganker school, educating new alpha players on how to become better pirates? I know Aiko or someone else will ask for a billion ISK at this point. We seriously do this without asking from the students or the community for any support or donations. We mine, we sell, we buy ships, only to give those away. Can any ganker be so altruistic? Mine safe ⛏ ---
**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/694 "2026-11-04T10:22:03Z")
Serious question, if/when FCCP excordium all of high sec what are gankers going to move on to ? Scamming in Jita ? Gate camps in low sec? Knitting ? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/695 "2026-11-04T10:39:55Z")
> [@Asveron\_Durr](#): > > Holy CRAP…is someone spends a year getting into exhumers…they need to quit the game right now…hell it only takes 15 days to get into Indy command ships… Mining requires a lot of skill points. You can’t just skill up into the ship. You need good shield skills, mining skills, processing skills (for T2 crystals in every ore type you’ll be mining) and at least Exhumers 4. Great drone skills help a lot too. It doesn’t take a year, but it can’t be done in 15 days. Mining likely has the most required skills for T2 fit ships aside from capitals. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > How was No Man’s Star Citizen It was nice! ---
**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/696 "2026-11-04T11:33:30Z")
All that just to be a turtle in highsec Never again 🚧🛑🚧 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/697 "2026-11-04T11:43:22Z")
Agreed. The skill points required to be a good miner need to be reduced to coincide with the low profit margin. ---
**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/698 "2026-11-04T11:44:35Z")
When I made like 120 mill in null on bounties. When I made 100mill robbing an ess bank I just said what’s the point and skill extracted sky ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/699 "2026-11-04T11:45:49Z")
> [@kage1982](#): > > what are gankers going to move on to ? Nothing…as its not happening. There is not a single statement, or even hint of a statement, of any such thing being planned or intended. Not only that but the entire design of highsec, with its various deliberate choke points, would become meaningless. What’s more…one would have the absurdity of people being able to fly around 1,192 systems with no tank or turrets at all…in a space shooter MMO. And why would Exordium even need to be ‘expanded’ if its 52 systems are already doing fine for noobs or others who want zero PvP ? What conceivable purpose would it serve ? And lastly, EVE has had one or two scandals but none would match the scandal of some sheer nobody player having well over 6 months advance ‘insider’ knowledge of a major change to the game. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/700 "2026-11-04T11:50:40Z")
> [@Murder\_Maid](#): > > When I made like 120 mill in null on bounties. > > When I made 100mill robbing an ess bank > > I just said what’s the point and skill extracted sky You can make money mining, but that requires an Athanor that can be War Decked and destroyed by a single marauder- or a group of ships- without any Concord intervention. So it’s not even worth doing. I’ve tried to defend them, but it’s impossible. They brought 20 ships so we brought 50. They came back again and we hired mercs so they brought in another corp. They numbered 150 and we bailed and lost our last Athanor. With how much Athanors cost thanks to CCP adding in that damn core as lootable salvage, it’s not worth doing. But then, that was the whole reason behind the core. It was added in because no one was destroying structures. I mine because I enjoy it. I don’t do it for the profit. I can pilot combat ships too. I can fly two T3 cruisers, 1 marauder, several faction ships, and I’m even skilled up to a couple Dreadnoughts. The Sarathiel is my fav because of how it looks. But I’m also skilled in mining all the way up to the Rorqual. I mine in High Sec because all the null sec groups I’ve tried were bad experiences. I’ve enough stress in real life. I don’t want the stress or the demands of living in null. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/701 "2026-11-04T11:56:19Z")
> [@Lydra\_Victor](#): > > CODE didn’t gank me, It was null players who did that to me in HS, Lowsec and nullsec. It’s impossible to be ganked in lowsec or nullsec. Learn the game ffs. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206.md?page=33) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206.md?page=35)