# Ganking is a valid form of gameplay, just like PvP everywhere else in EVE Online, and it takes practice to get good at, more inside **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 23, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206 "2026-02-23T17:34:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/702 "2026-11-04T11:58:41Z")
It’s impossible to get ganked in High Sec if you know what you’re doing. I’ve flown ships through gate camps. I’ve mined in ice fields with gankers actively taking down ships next to me. I’ve even dodged bubbles in Null. I’ve avoided several gate camps while flying in and out of null. I know how to play. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/703 "2026-11-04T12:00:35Z")
> [@Lusty\_Lucy\_Cybaritic](#): > > **gank** _verb_ - To kill, ambush, or defeat with little effort; used in online games. Yeah but this is EvE, where it’s a contraction of ‘suicide gank’ which means to attack someone in highsec in the full knowledge that CONCORDOKEN will occur. The generic online gaming term has been modified by the EvE community, this also means that the aspersions cast by the definition above, i.e. that it’s low effort, are also not true. I do wish people would learn the vocab before posting on the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/704 "2026-11-04T12:03:15Z")
You just wrote down exactly why I’ve never lost a mining ship 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/705 "2026-11-04T12:06:27Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > You can make money mining, but that requires an Athanor that can be War Decked and destroyed by a single marauder- or a group of ships- without any Concord intervention. So it’s not even worth doing. I’ve tried to defend them, but it’s impossible. That’s a bit misleading. I’ve mined in highsec and you don’t need any Athanor, etc. Just mine and sell ore at an NPC station that’s buying…preferable one that’s not too many jumps from the mining system. I never once got ganked, or even close to being ganked, while mining. Ironically the only time I ever got ganked was while ratting in an asteroid belt in a non mining ship. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/706 "2026-11-04T12:07:45Z")
@Glenduil Welcome back from your break. 🙂 🌹 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/707 "2026-11-04T12:16:30Z")
How was it misleading? Ah, I dont think you’ve ever heard of the upwell structures or what they’re used for. You should look into them. It’s a good read if nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/708 "2026-11-04T12:16:56Z")
> [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#): > > Yeah but this is EvE, where it’s a contraction of ‘suicide gank’ which means to attack someone in highsec in the full knowledge that CONCORDOKEN will occur. The generic online gaming term has been modified by the EvE community, this also means that the aspersions cast by the definition above, i.e. that it’s low effort, are also not true. Its all a bit misleading, as ‘ganking’ is really just PvP in highsec and the only difference between a 0.4 lowsec system and a 0.5 highsec system is that Concord respond in the latter. Giving it a specific name like ‘ganking’ sort of implies that it is some totally different activity…when it isn’t. Ganking is simply highsec PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/709 "2026-11-04T12:18:52Z")
I guess so. I don’t know why suicide ganking became the term, but it did. 🤷 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/710 "2026-11-04T12:19:30Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > How was it misleading? Ah, I dont think you’ve ever heard of the upwell structures or what they’re used for. You should look into them. It’s a good read if nothing else. Lol…I’ve participated in destroying literally hundreds of them. Your comment was misleading because you said mining ‘requires an Athanor’. It doesn’t. You can make money mining without any Athanor. I’ve done so ! ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/711 "2026-11-04T12:20:18Z")
And your mental disorder refuses to allow you to move past that. I’m going to leave it there just for you 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/712 "2026-11-04T12:20:52Z")
Dude…you made a comment and your comment was wrong. Get over it. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/713 "2026-11-04T12:25:33Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Your comment was misleading because you said mining ‘requires an Athanor’. Oh.. i never said mining requires an Athanor. Now your mental disorder will really start to cook! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/714 "2026-11-04T12:25:58Z")
Yay, funny carebear miners forum catfight in a ganking thread! ![Cat Fight GIF - Cat Fight Battle - Discover & Share GIFs](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/b/a0b0aa825de065c2ffe419991df63a2a5802ab5d.gif) 🤔 🍿 :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/715 "2026-11-04T12:41:55Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > i never said mining requires an Athanor Dude…are you feeling OK ? ![glenduil](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/0/1/701946bf77aff74557b58a31d45dcc360b4a0777.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/716 "2026-11-04T12:43:22Z")
I think he’s trying to argue that you can mine but you won’t make money. That would seem to entirely depend on the definition of making money. hth ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/717 "2026-11-04T12:44:55Z")
By definition if you mine and sell your ore you are ‘making money’. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/718 "2026-11-04T12:45:28Z")
Yep. Gloria sees things how she wants to see them. I specifically stated money in that sentence, but she’ll argue all day that i didnt. I’ve learned to laugh at her “personality quirk” ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/719 "2026-11-04T12:45:34Z")
I wouldn’t know anything about that. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/720 "2026-11-04T12:46:04Z")
How very noble of you. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2026, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/721 "2026-11-04T12:48:10Z")
And I quite specifically stated that I had made money from mining without an Athanor. Rather than you resorting to ad hominen, how about you look at your own words and how loosely you defined things such as to make a misleading statement. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206.md?page=34) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206.md?page=36)