# Ganking is a valid form of gameplay, just like PvP everywhere else in EVE Online, and it takes practice to get good at, more inside

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**Created:** [February 23, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206 "2026-02-23T17:34:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/867 "2026-11-06T01:59:52Z")

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To me you are John.

So show us the proof, pictures or it didn’t happen.  
Just another blagger like Gloria

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/868 "2026-11-06T02:01:26Z")

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Ah the phantom ship no one has seen but you .  
Will just call it “Gloria’s unicorn “

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/869 "2026-11-06T02:02:35Z")

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His status as a berk ? No that’s not at risk he’s a berk we all know

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/870 "2026-11-06T02:03:01Z")

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> [@Murder\_Maid](#):
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> Aiko Danuja risks her status, her reputation on her hunts that sometimes have billions on the line. . She has fought an uphill battle with power struggles, with people doing everything in their power to stop her and safety from miners to other gankers. A lesser person would have cracked under the pressure yet safety not only perceivers they surpassed code.

Aiko is actually an inspiration to all EVE players. I mean, Aiko went from being a humble miner herself to running one of the most successful killing machines in EVE. Aiko has a lot of respect in EVE…whether given willingly or grudgingly…which you’d expect for someone who runs an alliance that has more than 18 Trillion ISK in kills. All the whiners are just jealous because they never had the nerve or gumption to do anything…except whine.

Kage is a mere Planck scale sized protozoa by comparison.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/872 "2026-11-06T02:05:53Z")

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> [@kage1982](#):
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> we all think

Well…first of all ‘we’ is just you alone…and I doubt thinking is something you are even capable of.

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/873 "2026-11-06T02:09:04Z")

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Keep telling yourself that you utter joke .  
Now go log on another alt and post some more fake support

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**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/874 "2026-11-06T02:12:05Z")

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Kage wore out his welcome with me so I finally blocked him, he’s not worth my time effort or energy. As a post flagger and then actively lying about it to save face I dismissed him indefinitely, you should try it it’s like a weight has been lifted.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/875 "2026-11-06T02:14:34Z")

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Indeed, most of us do actually want to discuss _the topic_…without some rude yob interjecting every 5 seconds.

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**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/876 "2026-11-06T02:17:57Z")

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So really when I said I gave up mining for ess heists the game changed completely for me. Mining and mining corps felt like I was logging into another job, the ess thing on a late night with a small gang feels thrilling and engaging like actual piracy.

I wish I’d listened sooner, thank you Aiko

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**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/516830_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/877 "2026-11-06T02:22:33Z")

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> [@Malcoy\_Tweedhouse](#):
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> it sure was clever and well thought out.

I didn’t think it was that clever, but I have done that before, and people here miss it every single time. Congrats, you are the first one in years to have seen the innuendo, and commented on it. I should send you some ISK for spotting it, or maybe because you fully admit to having never been in a fleet.

o7

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/878 "2026-11-06T02:27:51Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> Aiko is actually an inspiration to all EVE players. I mean, Aiko went from being a humble miner herself to running one of the most successful killing machines in EVE. Aiko has a lot of respect in EVE…whether given willingly or grudgingly…which you’d expect for someone who runs an alliance that has more than 18 Trillion ISK in kills.

Thank you kindly, but two quick corrections:

🤓

1. I never mined a day in my life. I came to this game for PvP, because I was playing some other game, and I heard carebears crying about how they quit EvE to get away from people like me. As a new player, I started liberating drones on Day 1, working my way up from Integrated Hobgoblins to Harvesters. Shortly thereafter, I had a lot of isk, and started killing people. The first person I killed thanked me profusely, the second person had an absolute meltdown about how I am a Goon griefer harassing new players (he was not a new player, and I was). I remember asking in all seriousness, “What is a goon?”

2. My personal killboard exceeds 18 trillion isk. The alliance killboard exceeds 80 trillion!

🥳

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/879 "2026-11-06T02:34:03Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> 1. The alliance killboard exceeds 80 trillion!

I’ve lost count of how many corps are in the alliance. I just do my little bit in my corp to raise the kills number without any losses 🙂

My other alt got his first kills for Safety the other day, but then the silly killboard system decided both were ‘padded’. Which is silly as even if the player killed had been killed 20 times already, that was by other people and not me…I only killed each player once.

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**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/516830_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/880 "2026-11-06T03:08:15Z")

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@Aiko_Danuja You can make trillions of ISK killing your own people?  
[How do you manage this?](https://zkillboard.com/kill/139683683/)  
You killed that player twice in Osmon high sec, I do see the 4 miners on the list, but you have dozens of kills racked up with your Safety alliance. It looks to me, like you kill more gankers than you do miners.

@Gloria_Exercitus is also Safety, but they are not killing Safety members. The killboard looks more like I would expect to see from a PvP aspect.

o7

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/881 "2026-11-06T04:04:35Z")

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> [@John\_Rochard](#):
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> @Gloria_Exercitus is also Safety, but they are not killing Safety members. The killboard looks more like I would expect to see from a PvP aspect.

All my kills are from killing suspects…which adds to the total Safety kills but without adding the losses incurred in being Concorded, etc. Though I have joined several gank fleets…but they too were killing suspects coming out of mission sites.

Also…the people I shoot often shoot back. In fact my Loki vs a Tornado is quite well matched, with the Tornado having the much higher alpha, but my Loki having the much faster reload time. Anyone who thinks its easy is welcome to sit outside Jita in a 600m ISK ship in full range of a dozen Tornadoes 🙂

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/882 "2026-11-06T05:29:02Z")

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You might not be fully aware of how much isk people are sending me.

It turns out that killing miners is very popular (and lucrative).

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**Author:** ![kage1982](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kage1982/32/516465_2.png) [@kage1982](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kage1982)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/883 "2026-11-06T08:24:05Z")

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Prove it

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**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/516830_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/884 "2026-11-06T10:23:27Z")

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I googled it and found this video on Youtube.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/1/3/913b7d19687e40eeb245391ef928e4e79a60cf2d.jpeg "EVE Online's #1 Solo Pilot Killed 357 Ships In July — I Read Every Killmail") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL3V9domnf0)

I found it very informative. No explaination needed.

o7

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/885 "2026-11-06T10:23:28Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> So why don’t you come on using the alleged char that has been in EVE since 2004…huh ? Oh…it’s just another of your Walter Mitty inventions.

This one doesn’t exist anymore and don’t even TRY to tell us that you still got ANY of your chars and NEVER deleted one because you would make even MORE of a fool out of yourself…

Pathetic try to devalue me…

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**Author:** ![Uta\_Asmai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uta_asmai/32/476817_2.png) [@Uta\_Asmai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uta_Asmai)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/886 "2026-11-06T10:24:34Z")

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> [@John\_Rochard](#):
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> I found it very informative. No explaination needed.
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> o7

Hello AI Crap…

And beside that…

What EXACTLY does it prove shooting unarmed ships…

Only that you a coward taking absolutely no risks but taunting about it anyway…

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**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/516830_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/887 "2026-11-06T10:27:19Z")

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> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> Hello AI Crap…

You do know that Aiko is one of the largest AI supporters on this forum?

> [@Uta\_Asmai](#):
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> What EXACTLY does it prove shooting unarmed ships…

You didn’t even have time to watch this video. Are you an Aiko alt?

o7

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