# Ganking is a valid form of gameplay, just like PvP everywhere else in EVE Online, and it takes practice to get good at, more inside **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 23, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206 "2026-02-23T17:34:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/106 "2026-02-25T15:33:23Z")
BTW, there should be a button (after pilot was ganked or gate camped): “Do you want to contact gankers and get some tips from them for …. ISK?”. Maybe how to scout, fit, pull or how to fly. As recently faced the same pod trying to pass gate camp in nullsec, without any smart bombs but with bubble… on try number X pilot found that shuttle can make the trick… maybe someone from ours contacted as we were talking about chatting with that pilot about shuttle or just remove bubble and let him slip. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/107 "2026-02-25T15:38:04Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > How many systems openly allow PvP? Given our previous discussions I feel like before I can respond I need you to define what you mean by “system” “openly allow” and “PvP”. Generally, Omega players can shoot anyone anywhere at anytime within the rules in any system in EvE except for designated newbie systems, and newbies running the Sisters of Eve epic quest arc. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/108 "2026-02-25T16:56:38Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > Given our previous discussions I feel like… You’re not serious and therefore, not worth debating. Good day, sir. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/109 "2026-02-25T18:19:01Z")
> [@Sere\_O\_Asis](#): > > The fact that players decline this invitation to play baffles me. I’ve been ganked and I’ve ganked, but I always, at the very least, opened a conversation. The kill right, when exercised, is at best of meaningless consequence. ---
**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/110 "2026-02-25T18:24:24Z")
You are so funny according to the communication style in the thread. What have you lost? Who hit you that hard? Pretending that game should be only about you accumulating infinite wealth by staying in high sec without any ability to have tiny part of it to be lost. Like someone jumped out from WH/abyssal with huge loot and now they are untouchable, lol. Maybe some offline game where you can save and load? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/111 "2026-02-25T18:31:08Z")
> [@Rus\_Coder](#): > > Pretending that game should be only about you accumulating infinite wealth by staying in high sec without any ability to have tiny part of it to be lost. > … > Maybe some offline game where you can save and load? I think [farmerama](https://www.farmerama.com/) is more up his alley. 🤔 🤭 🍿 :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/112 "2026-02-25T20:20:20Z")
My mom likes Farmville. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/113 "2026-02-25T20:55:30Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > Highsec is advertised and mechanically framed as a space of relative safety under empire enforcement. That framing creates different expectations. > > When a space is presented as a “haven,” players reasonably assume that aggression will carry different structural consequences than in null. > > The issue is not whether PvP exists in both areas. It is whether the security tier meaningfully changes the reciprocity of that PvP. > > If highsec aggression resolves instantly and resets with no sustained exposure, then the practical difference between “secure” and “lawless” becomes narrower than the labeling suggests. > > That is the distinction. No it isn’t. That is just meaningless word salad. Just a vomit of words that don’t actually say anything. Nowhere is highsec presented as a ‘haven’. Indeed, the very fact that highsec incorporates systems all the way from 0.5 to 1.0 clearly indicates that safety levels vary even within highsec…and that applies just as much for PvE. In fact, more noob Ventures are lost to rats by people mining in 0.5 and 0.6 than are ever lost to ganking. So much for a ‘haven’….lol. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/114 "2026-02-25T21:40:49Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Nowhere is highsec presented as a ‘haven’. 0:46 “It is a rich and diverse universe, featuring densely-populated havens of relative safety”. * * * [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/2/b272a0ba60d8c957176545dffb90bf2f673e5582.jpeg "EVE Online - Official Gameplay Trailer - Play Free!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPFII3ozSHI&t=43) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/115 "2026-02-25T21:45:56Z")
Relative safety. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/116 "2026-02-25T21:47:25Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > 0:46 “It is a rich and diverse universe, featuring densely-populated havens of relative safety”. Sigh. Crib Goch is ‘relatively safe’ compared with scaling the north face of the Eiger. But people still die on it. When are you going to stop posting ‘rich and diverse’ BS ? ![1647349053-cover-picture](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/f/d/6fd4b43fcbc7bd848e008c7df22b6e5e7e923c8d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Selena\_Agnar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selena_agnar/32/487879_2.png) [@Selena\_Agnar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selena_Agnar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/117 "2026-02-25T21:50:03Z")
We aint climbing mountains bro. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/118 "2026-02-25T21:55:06Z")
Yeah, its hard to climb mountains when all you do is sit in dock and whine. Lol…._yet another_ char that does not seem to have undocked since 2014. So predictable. ---
**Author:** ![Selena\_Agnar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selena_agnar/32/487879_2.png) [@Selena\_Agnar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selena_Agnar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/119 "2026-02-25T21:56:35Z")
Gloria having a cry now LOL inb4 CCP make the meanie go away. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/120 "2026-02-25T21:59:54Z")
Why would I cry over some Teletubbie who clearly could not even cope with the sheer stress of hitting ‘Undock’ for the first time in 12 years……let alone climbing Crib Goch ( which I have done ). HTFU. ---
**Author:** ![Selena\_Agnar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selena_agnar/32/487879_2.png) [@Selena\_Agnar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selena_Agnar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/121 "2026-02-25T22:03:17Z")
Man you must have been really shook seeing a Coercer used for something other than suicide runs. Don’t worry Gloria, there is an entire sand box just waiting for you outside of Jita. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/122 "2026-02-25T22:08:43Z")
> [@Selena\_Agnar](#): > > We aint climbing mountains bro. We are doing something harder, flying in space is magnitudes more dangerous than climbing a mountain. CCP has said multiple times, space is dangerous. Just because you are safe in your chair at home, does not mean that the safety is there. People like you are why new players seem to think that High sec is safe. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/123 "2026-02-25T22:11:43Z")
> [@Selena\_Agnar](#): > > you must have been really shook seeing a Coercer used for something other than suicide runs Actually I _am_ shocked that you did such a low percent of the damage done by a 17 man fleet that EVE cannot cope with the number of zeroes required to display 0.001%. ---
**Author:** ![Selena\_Agnar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selena_agnar/32/487879_2.png) [@Selena\_Agnar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selena_Agnar)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/124 "2026-02-25T22:28:35Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > flying in space is magnitudes more dangerous than climbing a mountain. Actual Cooker thinks he is flying in space. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/125 "2026-02-25T23:06:52Z")
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