# Ganking is a valid form of gameplay, just like PvP everywhere else in EVE Online, and it takes practice to get good at, more inside

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**Created:** [February 23, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206 "2026-02-23T17:34:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/126 "2026-02-25T23:16:57Z")

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My alliance is called Safety.

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/127 "2026-02-25T23:21:48Z")

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That is a ridiculously cute photo!

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**Author:** ![Selena\_Agnar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selena_agnar/32/487879_2.png) [@Selena\_Agnar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selena_Agnar)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/128 "2026-02-26T00:19:23Z")

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This is a horrible picture. I hope you are happy with yourself.

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/129 "2026-02-26T00:29:18Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> Crib Goch

> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> ![1647349053-cover-picture](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/f/d/6fd4b43fcbc7bd848e008c7df22b6e5e7e923c8d.jpeg)

Thanks. That will go on my list. Looks awesome.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/130 "2026-02-26T00:38:56Z")

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> [@Meridan\_Night](#):
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> Thanks. That will go on my list. Looks awesome.

It’s in Wales…..right next to Snowdon. About 1500 feet long…2000 foot drop on both sides. This should be the NPE for EVE.

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**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/131 "2026-02-26T02:01:22Z")

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> [@Selena\_Agnar](#):
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> This is a horrible picture. I hope you are happy with yourself.

 ![cute](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/a/d/3ad9ccd49bb17a0c20b7bd17cb8d09455d03fa04.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Meltdown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blue_meltdown/32/451856_2.png) [@Blue\_Meltdown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blue_Meltdown)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/132 "2026-02-26T09:52:47Z")

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Fun part about that kill mail… ORE Reinforced Bulkheads were in his Cargo Bay… if he fitted them that would be another 400k extra eHP

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**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/133 "2026-02-26T10:38:29Z")

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LOL, this is even more funny.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/134 "2026-02-26T20:42:53Z")

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> [@Meridan\_Night](#):
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> It’s not worth my time or effort to go chasing after a t1 destroyer.

You don’t have to. If you protect your ships with caution, you’ll never get blown up in the first place. At least not by a T1 destroyer 🙂

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/135 "2026-02-26T21:10:16Z")

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It’s generally not just a single T1 destroyer people die to. Not unless they’re in a T1 hauler with 6+ expanded cargo holds in the low slots.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/136 "2026-02-26T22:05:59Z")

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So? Tank bigger. Are all your shield skills level 5? Are all of your armor skills level 5? Are you flying a crappy faction freighter or something so tanked out that it’s able to survive a trip through a black hole?

And if you want to haul, you can do so in a Deluge. Properly fit, they can warp while cloaked, travel at blazing speeds, and warp faster than most other ships out there.

I don’t understand why people fly faction haulers and freighters and then complain about being destroyed.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/137 "2026-02-26T22:06:30Z")

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I’ve never been ganked.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/138 "2026-02-26T22:07:04Z")

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You’re the one to learn from.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/139 "2026-02-27T11:09:22Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> So? Tank bigger. Are all your shield skills level 5? Are all of your armor skills level 5? Are you flying a crappy faction freighter or something so tanked out that it’s able to survive a trip through a black hole?
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> And if you want to haul, you can do so in a Deluge. Properly fit, they can warp while cloaked, travel at blazing speeds, and warp faster than most other ships out there.
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> I don’t understand why people fly faction haulers and freighters and then complain about being destroyed.

The biggest mistake I often see haulers make is that of mixing loads of small and large objects all in one haul. Really, you only need a huge bulk capacity hauler for stuff with huge bulk. I’ve seen cases where half the value of the haul would have fit into a Praxis….which one can make fast align and over 200K EHP. Back during the height of me moving small expensive items around….I used an Eagle that could get to 450K EHP with ADC and inertial stabilisers. Practically invincible….you’d need 40 or more gank ships for that. These days I more often use a cloaked Tengu. The great thing about a covops Tengu is that it docks instantly upon decloaking at an insta dock bookmark.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/140 "2026-02-27T12:41:50Z")

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If I’m hauling heavy, I’ll use an Avalanche or Orca. Slow to align, but nothing is going to crack through those shields!

In my opinion, you just can’t find a safer way to haul in High Sec!

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**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/141 "2026-02-27T14:41:04Z")

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I would say how I’m moving expensive and very light things on ships which can be blown by a single thrasher… but this is too obvious… treat highsec as lowsec or nullsec (but without bubbles).

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/142 "2026-02-27T15:07:48Z")

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In High Sec, you can avoid detection or survive the Concord timer.

If you’re not trying to do at least one of those, you’re doing it wrong.

Avoiding detection: use a ship that can warp while cloaked or has an align time of under 2 seconds. Make sure it can warp really fast so that no one can beat you to the next gate (11 AU/s or more). If you do get caught, a warp stab and a top speed of 4,000 m/s is pretty sweet!

Surviving the Concord timer:  
800,000 EHP with a shield booster in case they use a breacher pod. Train Thermodynamics to 5. Train shield and armor skills to 5. Or don’t even bother undocking.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/143 "2026-02-27T18:30:43Z")

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Highsec mining is NOT a risk.

:parrotdad:

**END OF DISCUSSION.**

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**Author:** ![Selena\_Agnar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selena_agnar/32/487879_2.png) [@Selena\_Agnar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selena_Agnar)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/144 "2026-02-27T21:40:53Z")

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Concord should chain you to a Veldspar and forcibly set your training skills to mining.

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**Author:** ![Rus\_Coder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rus_coder/32/491456_2.png) [@Rus\_Coder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rus_Coder)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2026, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-a-valid-form-of-gameplay-just-like-pvp-everywhere-else-in-eve-online-and-it-takes-practice-to-get-good-at-more-inside/507206/145 "2026-02-27T22:44:55Z")

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BTW, just faced on youtube shorts: [https://youtube.com/shorts/k7vKmscqwn8?si=NZvn4gvjq4Q6-TfS](https://youtube.com/shorts/k7vKmscqwn8?si=NZvn4gvjq4Q6-TfS)

Looks like this is too common mistake to fit 3 cargo extenders on JF and fly around highsec on relax. Or maybe someone doesn’t care about their JF and want to see gank in action, but for me it is a too pricy way to summon gankers.

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