# Ganking is the only consistent and "fair" content **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 27, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239 "2023-10-27T14:29:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/266 "2023-11-07T07:56:20Z")
> [@Sienna\_Massilia](#): > > I love the sound that the salvos make, gives me the feeling that my target is being shredded. The Javelins are awesome as well. Still have to try the Voids. Yes. Antimatter is the way, the truth and the life. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Void is. But then nothing in the spec says that Void is antimatter. > > Just checked with my Praxis and I get 527 DPS from Caldari Navy Antimatter with blasters and 807 DPS from Conflag with lasers…and the laser has 3 times the range. Whatever you need to tell yourself as you cry in your tacky gold ship with your flashy lights. Antimatter is superior, and Void is a variant thereof, therefore you do acknowledge antimatter is the superior. One day you will mature enough to put away the flashy lights. I notice in your test you did not use Void. We all know why. You know, there was another who roamed here who used semantics day and night to defend his points. It saddens me you have fallen into the same trap. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > But let me ask you this sweetie, are you perusing knowledge here, or just “being right?” She has fallen into old patterns sadly. I feel her growth as a pilot has been stunted by falling into one particular career choice. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > You’ll need to come up with a schematic, materials used. Points of friction. Friction coefficients. Induction coefficients for the motors used. The loss of heat due to induction, which causes the motors to slow. And don’t forget, that lasers use relatively high voltages and amprages, so ceramics would have to be used. That those have massive effects on, induction as well. Not to mention, that E=mc^2 so with each shot there will be heat loss do to recoil, so a spring coefficient will be needed, and calculate out how long it takes for a reset, not to mention loss of entropy that will effect the expansion of the materials causing expansion, and thus change friction on a moment by moment basis. All I glean from this, is that antimatter is better. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Dangerously starting to sound like Lucas Kell there. Especially when he was backed into a corner and squirming to get out… I made this very same point. Mayhap it proves if you fight monsters too long, you do indeed become them? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/267 "2023-11-07T09:57:52Z")
Who? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/5/8/e588bc44fef1ff682b551c781af8ea94f372aad5.png) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/268 "2023-11-07T11:47:57Z")
> [@Io\_Koval](#): > > I’m neither responsible for your lack of education, nor for correcting it, and certainly not your sour „I have to be right“ pearl clutching attitude. In other words you can’t tell me what’s wrong with what I said because you just made up that you actually had a clue. Pretty much par for the course on the forums. 99% of these type of arguments consist of… A : ’ You’re wrong…and I’m an expert on quantum mechanics’ B : ’ OK then…_use_ your vast knowledge of QM to tell me what’s wrong’ A : ’ Oh no…it’s not my job to educate you’ B : ’ In other words you don’t _actually_ know anything about QM’ …rinse and repeat and insert 100 times into every thread in the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/269 "2023-11-07T11:54:56Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Dangerously starting to sound like Lucas Kell there. Oh gawd…you’ve now dug such a deep hole of semantic and straw man absurdities that you’re gonna pop out at Sydney Opera House any moment. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/270 "2023-11-07T12:08:08Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > In other words you can’t tell me what’s wrong i can tell you whats wrong … you are using the imperial system and not the far better metric system ! but yes ! you dont need to move yorur head with 804,672 km/h if you wanna look at a plane on the air ! > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > If I see a plane fly past at 500mph, and I rotate my head to see it, that does not mean my head has to rotate at 500mph. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > A : ’ You’re wrong…and I’m an expert on quantum mechanics’ > B : ’ OK then…_use_ your vast knowledge of QM to tell me what’s wrong’ > A : ’ Oh no…it’s not my job to educate you’ > B : ’ In other words you don’t _actually_ know anything about QM’ this is false ! if someone dont want to educate you then its not the meaning of " i dont know and thats the reason why i dont tell you " its meaning " i dont wanna explain it to you " ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/271 "2023-11-07T12:43:05Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > this is false ! if someone dont want to educate you then its not the meaning of " i dont know and thats the reason why i dont tell you " its meaning " i dont wanna explain it to you " That’s totally wrong…and I feel no incentive whatever to explain why. It’s just wrong. I say so. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/272 "2023-11-07T12:46:05Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > That’s totally wrong this is just because your not educated ! > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > and I feel no incentive whatever to explain why. It’s just wrong. I say so. its your goddamn right ! just because you know about something does not mean you need to explain it to the whole world ! but if your wrong your still be wrong ! and you ARE wrong ! ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/273 "2023-11-07T12:47:25Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > just because you know about something does not mean you need to explain it to the whole world ! That’s wrong ! ( what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander ) ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/274 "2023-11-07T12:51:59Z")
Just decided to side with you on this debate! ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/275 "2023-11-07T12:53:19Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > That’s wrong ! then explain me everything you know ! good that my posts go into the goose xD yours came out of it 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/276 "2023-11-07T12:57:51Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > then explain me everything you know ! Nooo…if nobody else needs to then neither do I. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/277 "2023-11-07T12:58:57Z")
Your brain would start to ooze antimatter if you knew what we know ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/278 "2023-11-07T13:04:41Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Nooo…if nobody else needs to then neither do I. then you said by yourself → you know nothing cause you dont wanna explain ! ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/279 "2023-11-07T13:29:03Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Oh gawd…you’ve now dug such a deep hole of semantic and straw man absurdities that you’re gonna pop out at Sydney Opera House any moment. Sweetie, Again you’re trying to make an argument from a word of advice. All I’ve done with this entire conversation was answer your question, which you promptly dismissed and began to argue with. This is because you have absolutely no interest in listening to anyone on what they have to say because you’ve convinced yourself that the only thing anyone has anything of value to offer is, yourself. Again, you’re not interested in learning or education. You’re only interested in being right. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Lol…no…you’ll just have to use your vast knowledge of relativity to tell me what’s wrong. Why would he waste time explaining it to you when you’re not interested in learning and will simply dismiss his explanation? Just like you did here when I tried to show you that need to take physics into account with your overly simplified example. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Er, no…nice attempt at arguing against some straw man point I haven’t made and then conflating it with every term you could find in a physics dictionary. As I said, you can be right in your own ignorance as much as you want. Don’t let me stop you. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/280 "2023-11-07T13:54:40Z")
> [@Sienna\_Massilia](#): > > Still have to try the Voids. Void is really nice. Especially for ganking. And brawling pvp. I love my dual web void merlin pvp setup. But it does suffer from short range issues and can easily be kited. Barrage is good when you want a bit of range. I use that for my battle venture taking out other ventures in low. And with my dual neut Dragoon. Scorch is amazing with the confessor. Nice range and damage. But don’t be fooled, an old CODE. Ganking corp known as the Honey Brights was very successful using Coercers with x-ray crystals. Use ammo appropriate for the situation, and every situation is different. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/281 "2023-11-07T14:13:17Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Just decided to side with you on this debate! Frosty as usual picks the wrong side. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > our brain would start to ooze antimatter if you knew what we know No Frosty. You don’t know what you think. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/282 "2023-11-07T14:22:27Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Again, you’re not interested in learning or education. You’re only interested in being right. Do stop projecting. And what makes you think you are in a position to teach me anything? Isn’t that somewhat arrogant ? ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/283 "2023-11-07T14:24:01Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > But it does suffer from short range issues and can easily be kited That’s why I went for Javelins. They have longer range. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Barrage is good when you want a bit of range. I haven’t even seen this ammo yet. Probably because I have Market and Fitting filtered by my skills. I will look into the Barrage. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Scorch is amazing with the confessor. Will have to try that ammo too once I have the skills. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Use ammo appropriate for the situation, and every situation is different Understood o7 Thanks a lot! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/284 "2023-11-07T14:30:29Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > And what makes you think you are in a position to teach me anything? @Ax_l_Thorne is a serial killer serving multiple life sentances with no chance of parole. She has learnt a thing or two inside. I wouldn’t understimate her as she has a thing or two that she could teach you except how not to get caught in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/285 "2023-11-07T14:31:53Z")
> [@Eldstokkr](#): > > Antimatter is superior, and Void is a variant thereof Nothing in the technical description of Void says it is antimatter… “The Void Xenon charge is a high-powered blaster charge that delivers an extremely powerful blast of kinetic energy.” [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239.md?page=15)