# Ganking is the only consistent and "fair" content **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 27, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239 "2023-10-27T14:29:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/426 "2024-01-02T14:59:01Z")
@Mr_Epeen almost has as much isk as one of my alts. He worked hard for it too. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/427 "2024-01-02T15:34:20Z")
It’s the Gucci lifestyle. Gotta convince everyone around you about how much you have, or how many famous people you know. Need all the plebs to know about your low twelve figures so that the new players post “wow, that’s a lot, I’m nowhere close to that!” or think that you’re well-connected because you hung out with BF and were pals with “Pitbull” and stuff. Brand logo needs to be at least 70% of your top’s surface area. Gotta get dem skrillaz yo, get dem followers. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/428 "2024-01-02T16:23:23Z")
Destiny you are obsessed and obviously emotionally unstable over this game. Calm down, this is only a game, not something to prove your own self worth over, or to go after someone in such a fashion. What especially makes me laugh is that I replied to people who said you can’t say anything because you do not have the experience. I detailed my experience, and then was told I am boasting blah blah blah, or trying to look special. It was so funny then and is really funny that it gets you so worked up. I also find the Pitboss highly amusing as I said that I knew someone well who knew Pitboss well and said that in relation a point I made in terms of blanket war decs. That obviously got you very worked up and you then went and did the thing you accused me of doing, hilarious. What I have noticed about you, is that you have a history of accusing me of doing what you in fact do, it is very odd indeed. In terms of your challenge, You could have just put a war HQ down, but you wanted me to create a weakness for you to attack. That you could not put one down and declare war was your issue. I have been quite clear that chasing you around the undock of Amarr station was not something I found fun or interesting and you are so unimportant to me. Your forum utterances are just hot air and for me more of an example of the issue with the forums than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/429 "2024-01-02T16:31:24Z")
Are you planning to log in any time soon to show all of us how to do _ **REAL** _ PvP by employing all relevant aspects of your smart, cold, and calculating nature? ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/430 "2024-01-02T16:34:30Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I detailed my experience, everyone can demonstrate his experiance … but if its not more then the station interieur then its not that much of experience … > [@Dracvlad](#): > > or trying to look specia thats the only thing you are … special ! and i dont mean the good definition of special … ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/431 "2024-01-02T16:34:47Z")
Am I that important to your Eve? If you wanted to prove something I was in NPC 0.0 when you made that challenge and you could have quite easily popped in to say hello. Eve is getting the upper hand on someone, that is the basis of this game, does acknowledging that upset you? PS [Vuhdo Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin) added to my ignored list ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/432 "2024-01-02T16:40:35Z")
I don’t know why you keep talking about the “challenge.” It wasn’t part of the discussion, and certainly isn’t relevant anymore since you’ve you’ve made it clear that no amount of incentives would entice you to compete. You must be thinking about it all the time though, since you _constantly_ bring it up. All we want is for you to log in and show us what _ **REAL** _ PvP looks like. I’m no more a part of the picture than a student willing to be taught. We eagerly await your return to active combat status so that you can bestow your valuable lessons. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/433 "2024-01-02T16:41:39Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > PS [Vuhdo Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin) added to my ignored list another one who cant handle hard facts xD ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/434 "2024-01-02T16:50:12Z")
Eve for me, has become not worth it in terms of cost,. I will only play with two accounts because a single account is too vulnerable and the cost is not worth it for me in terms of fun factor. Price increases have consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/435 "2024-01-02T16:51:43Z")
I’ll pay for your subs if you log in and show us what _ **REAL** _ non-niche-PK-grief PvP looks like. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/436 "2024-01-02T16:52:40Z")
You really are desperate. Well you made me chuckle at least. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/437 "2024-01-02T16:53:38Z")
Heh…😏 ---
**Author:** ![Galiota\_Akiwah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galiota_akiwah/32/405191_2.png) [@Galiota\_Akiwah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galiota_Akiwah)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/438 "2024-01-02T17:30:26Z")
I think, ganking on eventsites is to easy, you need only 10 destroyers and fly to a open eventsite, there will be a marauder or rattlesnake, marauders are in bastion mode and have no chance to leave the site. I will ignore all events for the future, an will do my other PVE playing, because I have no fun to kill other players. PS: I think ganking is easy, because ganker just need to fit for ganking and a PVE-player must fit for the PVE content and has so lower chance to fit pvp modules on his ship. It would be interesting if a ship can be fittet with two fittings, one for PVE and one for PVP, if a player attack the ship the PVP fitting will be activated. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/439 "2024-01-02T17:32:07Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > however the ending of neutral RR was what destroyed organised AG. All the old guard left the game because organised fleet play was wiped out and that was what they enjoyed. Please explain to me why any Antiganking Fleet would need “neutral reps”? That makes absolutely no sense. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > hat you are telling the few AG players left is that you have to do PvE to fight gankers, I am not sure that will get a lot of takers… What I tell the few AG players that are left is that they should do _something_. They don’t _have_ to do PvE, but fighting ganking with money _is_ an option if you really like to see results. I really don’t care what they pick from the tools they have available, but the first step is to gather some dedicated people and make a good plan. And it fails on that step already. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/440 "2024-01-02T17:41:40Z")
> [@Galiota\_Akiwah](#): > > there will be a marauder or rattlesnake, marauders are in bastion mode and have no chance to leave the site. And who exactly forced them to use such a slow sitting-duck ship in a site that _everyone_ can easily access and will land directly on top of them while they cannot leave? Nobody. It was _their_ desicison to bring a complete overpowered and overpriced tool for a simple job. These sites can be run in mobile HACs, T3s, FactionCruisers - good luck for a ganking squad catching one of these if the pilod isn’t completely incompetent. Just be on the move and the gankers will land 50km away from you when they warp in and then get the NPC aggro switched to them most of the time - which usually means they have to leave instantly or get blown up by the rats. > [@Galiota\_Akiwah](#): > > I will ignore all events for the future, an will do my other PVE playing, because I have no fun to kill other players. All fine, if it’s too hot for you, do something else. > [@Galiota\_Akiwah](#): > > and a PVE-player must fit for the PVE content and has so lower chance to fit pvp modules on his ship. It would be interesting if a ship can be fittet with two fittings, one for PVE and one for PVP, if a player attack the ship the PVP fitting will be activated. Absolutely not needed, you can run all eventsites in a complete PvP fit if you want. In fact I have baited gankers on multiple occasions to gank me in a site and they failed every time because _magically_ my ships had enough buffer to easily tank them. It is the greed of the PVE-players that won’t want to sacrifice 20% of their DPS for tank, because they would run the sites 30seconds slower. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/441 "2024-01-02T17:47:29Z")
Calm down miner. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/442 "2024-01-02T17:56:35Z")
> [@Galiota\_Akiwah](#): > > I think No you don’t Would you also like a dialgue box to appear informing you that you are about to be ganked, do you consent YES/NO ? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/443 "2024-01-02T18:11:00Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Please explain to me why any Antiganking Fleet would need “neutral reps”? That makes absolutely no sense. To be effective we often had to field expensive ships, for example have you ever tried to setup a fast firing ship that could alpha several Catalyst seffectively to reduce DPS, the problem is you can, but they end up being stupidly expensive in terms of the required hull and you have to field several of them. Another ship that can make a difference quickly, like the SOE BS in terms of reps. If you start using those ships the gankers come for you, so having the ability to rep your friends was key and I was in a fair few multi-layered AG fleets. By making RR impossible what you did was remove all the expensive effective ships out of the mix. > [@Syzygium](#): > > What I tell the few AG players that are left is that they should do _something_. They don’t _have_ to do PvE, but fighting ganking with money _is_ an option if you really like to see results. Where does that ISK come from exactly? > [@Syzygium](#): > > I really don’t care what they pick from the tools they have available, but the first step is to gather some dedicated people and make a good plan. And it fails on that step already. All those dedicated people largely left the game for the reason I detailed above. Sorry, but it is too late. ---
**Author:** ![Sallie-Farmer\_01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sallie-farmer_01/32/405196_2.png) [@Sallie-Farmer\_01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sallie-Farmer_01)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/444 "2024-01-02T18:17:14Z")
The community, short the ganking jerks, think your concept is skewed by your obvious disregard for anyone else playing this game other than you. Ganking in and of itself, is literally killing gamers that can’t do anythng but run or hide. That in and of itself, makes you a prick. Engaging other people in one on one combat is fun and honorable. It employs two or more people in combat. offensive and evasive skills and ship against ship matchups. It requires thought and planning AND expectation of actual engagement. Ganking on the other hand results in only one person haing “fun”. The ganking prick. Killing miners in a belt, especially from cloak, is a gut less, honorless and pricks way of playing this game and while it might be morbidly fun for the a## hole in the ganking ship, it is a totally crappy experience for miner. Especially when suicide ganked. And where is the logic anyway DA? This brings up the topic. Ask a question of a stupid person and you’ll get a stupid answer. Mining is what powers the supply industry. ECONOMICS 101 (If there are 500 warp disruptors for sale, the price is competitive. If there are 5 for sale, the price is astronomical) You kill the miners and you have limited raw materials supply. Limited raw material supply means limited product manufacture. Limited product manufacture means limited product availability. What that boils down to is supply and demand and for your simplistic mind, your warp disruptors cost raises to 2 billion each because a## holes like you kill the product manufacture system which makes the products a sellers market rather than a buyers market. You want to combat, that’s fine. That’s what PvP and PvE were designed for. You combat non armed players and you not only FU some one elses gaming fun, you disrupt the manufacturing chain and make an a$$ of yourself in the process. What you could do to enhance the play enjoyment is offer your “ganking” services for contract hire. Contact the miners and offer to provide overwatch for them for a percentage of the mining take. Typical mining brings in 10 to 100 million. A 10% contract is 1mil to 10 mil per miner. That’s a hell of a lot better than your DA salvage after the gank and then you become the hero rather than the a$$. No one admires you Bro. Everyone admires the little guy. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/445 "2024-01-02T18:21:59Z")
> [@Sallie-Farmer\_01](#): > > The ganking prick. > Killing miners in a belt, especially from cloak > [@Sallie-Farmer\_01](#): > > Especially when suicide ganked. Salty-Farmer what are you smoking? > [@Sallie-Farmer\_01](#): > > Ask a question of a stupid person and you’ll get a stupid answer [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239.md?page=23)