# Ganking is the only consistent and "fair" content **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [October 27, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239 "2023-10-27T14:29:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/527 "2024-01-06T10:45:00Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > You want to grief gankers Githany? If stopping a gank is grief then yes I did ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/528 "2024-01-06T10:48:47Z")
> [@Eldstokkr](#): > > In a universe where mass cloning exists, if you cannot figure out how to combat this, it is clear why “anti-ganking” never caught on. > > Ponder it more and you shall figure it out. > > Null security denizens have already figured it out for you. Well not sure what that even means , that’s more of an abstract statement then Aiko gives out ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/529 "2024-01-06T10:57:34Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > If stopping a gank is grief then yes I did You do know that griefing is against the rules, right? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/530 "2024-01-06T11:10:40Z")
Gankers spend more game time being griefers more than miners do. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/531 "2024-01-06T11:15:35Z")
You called stopping a gank grief ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/532 "2024-01-06T11:18:39Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Well not sure what that even means , that’s more of an abstract statement then Aiko gives out I know you cannot figure it out. Hence why you could not put a single dent in any of the pirate’s operations. I have given you all the clues already. It merely speaks to the fact that those who oppose piracy are barely literate capsuleers with no real skills to speak of. And no, I do not mean the skills you slot and learn over time. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Gankers spend more game time being griefers more than miners do. A greater lie has never been spoken. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/533 "2024-01-06T11:29:13Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Well not sure what that even means I understood what it meant. I wonder sometimes if maybe you choose to live in a box? ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/534 "2024-01-06T14:34:59Z")
> [@Eldstokkr](#): > > I know you cannot figure it out. Hence why you could not put a single dent in any of the pirate’s operations. > > I have given you all the clues already. What ever your trying to say we did indeed dent many pirate operations , using many types of fleets . > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I understood what it meant. Thought you would 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/535 "2024-01-06T17:40:54Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > we did indeed dent many pirate operations ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/e/3/ae31332ab1c305014a6b80f729d94f373e48e998.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/536 "2024-01-06T17:47:04Z")
Antigankers are like the insects which get crushed on the front grill of a truck. They claim success because they “slowed” the truck’s roll. ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/537 "2024-01-06T19:18:40Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > What ever your trying to say we did indeed dent many pirate operations , using many types of fleets When you don’t understand rudimentary battle tactics that null sec denizens figured out over a decade or more ago, I doubt it very much. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/538 "2024-01-07T10:43:48Z")
> [@Eldstokkr](#): > > Except we know it is not. You can easily field a fleet of tier 1 frigates, which will absolutely destroy the “ganker” catalyst fleet. > > The Caldari by themselves hold the key to do so. Easy…, and there are counters such as ECCM. Please explain how you would get around the counter measures effectively? > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > The Prophet believes you mean ad hominem. And again, you expose your lack of skill, this time in logic. Ad hominin > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > It isn’t an attack on you as a person, merely a statement of fact. See above. You did not know you can negate the entire fleet of so called “gankers” with lower tier ships that every capsuleer starts out with. You assume I am not aware of this, and I assume that you don’t know about the counter to this. ECCM. > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > This is the best and most cost effective way to deal with them. Again, you not being aware of this exposes your skill gap. Ad hominin > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > Except I have explained it all. And by your responses, you already know you are defeated. You tried to explain it, but you made it sound simple and easy, you ignored several other factors too. > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > The true sadness is someone living in New Eden for this long and yet knows so little. > > I do not hate him. I only pity him. I could not care less about your pity, what amuses me is your shallowness. My favourite was to nuke the initial tackle with the loss of sensor range, however it only worked with -10’s because I had to make them fail that initial attempt to stop the warp, because most people were not quick enough to try to warp again. The good thing about this approach is that it is not chance based and more effective in being 100% effective. The counter is of course to not use a -10 as initial tackle and use tags to keep it so, so in the end it came down to costing more for the ganker and so you can only use it every so often. Pretty much similar to the ECCM issue with what you suggested. I don’t feel schooled by you at all, I feel like a am being badgered by a two year old. I am guessing situational and circumstantial has no understanding from you. ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/539 "2024-01-07T11:07:53Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Easy…, and there are counters such as ECCM. Please explain how you would get around the counter measures effectively? The Prophet is puzzled. What “ganker” would ever waste a ship slot on ECCM? This statement alone shows you are an absolutely terrible pilot. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Ad hominin Saying it again doth not make it true. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > You assume I am not aware of this, and I assume that you don’t know about the counter to this. ECCM. See above. The fact you continue to push this narrative is laughable and yet so sad at the same time. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Ad hominin The Prophet begs you to spell properly. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > You tried to explain it, but you made it sound simple and easy, you ignored several other factors too. Oh? Such as? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > My favourite was to nuke the initial tackle with the loss of sensor range, however it only worked with -10’s because I had to make them fail that initial attempt to stop the warp, because most people were not quick enough to try to warp again. The good thing about this approach is that it is not chance based and more effective in being 100% effective. The counter is of course to not use a -10 as initial tackle and use tags to keep it so, so in the end it came down to costing more for the ganker and so you can only use it every so often. > > Pretty much similar to the ECCM issue with what you suggested. > > I don’t feel schooled by you at all, I feel like a am being badgered by a two year old. > > I am guessing situational and circumstantial has no understanding from you. Better tactics have already long been suggested. It is alright friend. You have embarrassed yourself enough as it is. High sec pirates fielding ECCM. Truly? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/540 "2024-01-07T11:12:03Z")
> [@Eldstokkr](#): > > The Prophet is puzzled. What “ganker” would ever waste a ship slot on ECCM? That is truly embarrassing for you. Do keep going > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > Better tactics have already long been suggested. That depends on factors that you fail to understand. > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > High sec pirates fielding ECCM. Truly? Doubling down on stupid WHT… Githany and those with her did ECM often, some people I know did it, but it was not something I did because of one of the issues that you fail to mention. Anyway I think I am going to add you to the blocked list. Done, bye bye. ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/541 "2024-01-07T11:46:02Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > That is truly embarrassing for you. Do keep going How so? Care to explain what high security pirate would waste a fitting slot on countermeasures? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > That depends on factors that you fail to understand. Elaborate. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Githany and those with her did ECM often, some people I know did it, but it was not something I did because of one of the issues that you fail to mention. Anyway I think I am going to add you to the blocked list. Done, bye bye. Yes. Failed anti-“gankers” used ECM. However, high security pirates have never slotted to counter that. Of course you are fleeing. You lost. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/542 "2024-01-07T14:03:36Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I think I am going to add you to the blocked list. In other words , you lost ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/543 "2024-01-07T14:07:07Z")
Not at all, I did so because he just resorted to mindless insults, a lack of detail, and a declaration that he could do it and win. I suspect that he was one of Dom’s alts, style was pretty much the same as Dom Akaral (Gix to you if your memory is too short.) And that person is way too far gone for me to bother with, sorry but that is the truth of it. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/544 "2024-01-07T14:10:59Z")
Dissapointing @Dracvlad, the prophet is very wise. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/545 "2024-01-07T14:18:56Z")
At least your gif’s are amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/546 "2024-01-07T14:57:20Z")
> [@Eldstokkr](#): > > When you don’t understand rudimentary battle tactics that null sec denizens figured out over a decade or more ago, I doubt it very much. Lol null battle tactics means squat in high sec , had so many elite PvPers lording it up, saying they are going to destroy this group and that , they soon run back to null [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239.md?page=26) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239.md?page=28)